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Old 03-21-2007, 02:34 PM
Tom Bayes Tom Bayes is offline
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Default Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

Michael Wiesenberg finally wrote an article on PL Draw tournaments. Here it is

To be honest, I didn't find anything terribly new or enlightening here. Guess what, low/medium two pair is STILL a trap hand.

There will be a part 2 to this article in the next issue of CardPlayer.
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Old 03-21-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

all fluff [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] wonder how much he was paid for that?
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

I agree it could have been better, but don't pretend like you haven't gone too far with your two pair or been to weak with it, something I think was the most advanced concept in the article.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

I was too harsh on Wiesenberg. I hope the villains in this hand (particularly UTG, who had limped with Ace high on the previous hand) never read his work.

Tournament: Pot Limit 5 Card Draw (10/20) (converter)

SB (1210), Seat 6
BB (1440), Seat 1
UTG (1480), Seat 2
MP (1620), Seat 3
CO (1720), Seat 4
Hero (1530), Seat 5

SB posts 10. BB posts 20.

Hero is Button with [8d 6d 6c 6s 5c]

Round 1: (30)

<font color="green">UTG calls. </font><font color="red">MP raises 40 to 60. </font><font color="#666666">CO folds. </font><font color="red">Hero raises 100 to 160. </font><font color="#666666">SB folds. </font><font color="#666666">BB folds. </font><font color="green">UTG calls. </font><font color="green">MP calls. </font>
UTG takes 1. MP takes 1. Hero discards 8d.

Hero has [6d 6c 6s 5c Ks]

Round 2: (510)

<font color="green">UTG checks. </font><font color="green">MP checks. </font><font color="red">Hero bets 240. </font><font color="green">UTG calls. </font><font color="green">MP calls. </font>

Pot: (1230)

Results: (in white)

<font color="white">Total pot 1230 | Rake 0

UTG had [6h 8h 9d 9h 8s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights.
MP had [9s Jc 2h 2d Jd].
Hero had [Ks 6d 6c 6s 5c] and won (1230) with three of a kind, Sixes .
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Chat afterwards:
UTG said, "wetre you dealt that set?"
UTG: "f.ucking draw"
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

This is why I keep the chat on. I love the insights from some of these guys.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

Can you tell me why you are only drawing one and not two with the set?
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

[ QUOTE ]
UTG said, "wetre you dealt that set?"
UTG: "f.ucking draw"

[/ QUOTE ]

He put you on 66K5x before the draw. Standard.
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Wiesenberg on Draw MTTs

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Can you tell me why you are only drawing one and not two with the set?

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They might fold if he draws 2.
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