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Old 11-24-2007, 05:30 PM
Equus asinus Equus asinus is offline
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Default $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

This is the first 180 player MTT I have played. I usually donk it up in FR NL games but had my worst session ever so I decided to blow off some steam with a tourney.

I make the money and get to the final table, but I'm starting to get short stacked. Do I make a stand here or fold and let a few more people bust out. I've seen UTG push two high cards at this point, and there is a lot of stealing, so I figure I've probably got a coinflip against overs if I call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t60434)
MP (t113138)
Hero (t23264)
SB (t25764)
BB (t47400)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t57500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero...

The payout for the tourney goes:
1st: $216
2nd: $144
3rd: $85
4th: $57
5th: $47

I'm curious to hear what you guys think!
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

Fold it here. UTG raise is just ew. You can pick a better spot IMO
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

Also, post this in Small Stakes MTT - they answer this much quicker and better thought processes IMO.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Fulcanelli Fulcanelli is offline
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

I'd call and feel bad about it; then again, I'm a spineless nit...

I don't think I have time to wait for a better hand (2K BB 1K SB and 1K ante/5hands is a LOT).

This type of villain will do the same with pairs smaller than 88 or even A5s type of hands when he feels he can bully the table (or at least the short stacks).

Vs overcards pocket 8's is 55% to win, so it'll pay off in the long run I guess.

Still, shoving them instead of calling is a lot different, and there's 2 people to act behind you [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

I'd have to fold here, you are at best a coinflip against any competent player making that raise and you're probably drawing thin to two outs.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

With a hand like 88 you'd rather be the first to raise all in. 99+, AQ+ is an easy call readless. I'd rather fold here and push fairly wide on the next hand if the blinds will be tight.
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call. You are starting to get shortstacked and I think its time to double up or go home. If you play it safe you are basically in a battle between shorties over 4th and 5th place. A double here would put you in good shape for top 3.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

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All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call.

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I wish I could narrow opponents ranges down like that.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

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All in from UTG feels like AK to me. I'd call.

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I wish I could narrow opponents ranges down like that.

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Yay, my first snide response from a 2+2 reg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: $4 Pstars 180 Person Final Donkament Table - What Would You Do?

This is a small pair or AK very often.

88 is right on the border of calling here.
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