Tough Turn Decision in Deep Stack NL200 6-Max with JTs On Button

brianmarc · #1 09-20-2007, 05:45 PM

World Sports Exchange (WSEX) - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players
Min/Max buy-ins: $100/$200

Typical weak-tight game. Minimal deception, lots of cheap limping by villains and I have been feasting on in-position raises and flop continuation bets. So I'm profiting from TA table image and have stolen some decent pots by moving in on scary boards after preflop and flop aggression.

However, since generally difficult to build big pots so I have been playing loose when in position, and only reraise with big pairs and AK. Else rasie if limped to me or cold call with hands like this one.

I know villain (33%/8%) is not on a steal and since we're both deep-stacked I'm looking to hit something and do some seriosu damage to his stack.

SB: $182.90
BB: $220.85
UTG: $202.45
CO: $303.30
Hero (BTN): $270.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $7.00, Hero calls $7.00, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, CO bets $18.00, 

No way he has str8, as he would never OR with T8, so I put him on big pair or big A.
Hero raises to $40.00, BB folds, CO calls $22.00

Turn: ($99) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, 

His check looks weak; my read on him is AK. Possibly TT since he likely would not bet out even with OES after my Flop raise.

What's my play here? And any ideas on flop and preflop?
Will post result later if anyone wants it.

VPIP100 · #2 09-20-2007, 05:48 PM

I dont think he would ever call AK to the raise tho.

I check this behind alot since I know im getting check raised alot on the turn and we have a good draw now.

brianmarc · #3 09-20-2007, 05:50 PM

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I dont think he would ever call AK to the check raise tho.

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What CR are you referring to?

Etats360 · #4 09-20-2007, 05:57 PM

First off, you're not deep stacked.
Second, raise more on flop. That's basically a minraise.
Third, if you're gonna bet here, make sure you bet enough to commit yourself to a c/rai. Flop raise was so small, his range is decently wide here and can have a Q in it. I take free card here.

brianmarc · #5 09-20-2007, 06:05 PM

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I check this behind alot since I know im getting check raised alot on the turn and we have a good draw now.

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These guys rarely CR, esp HU. So, if I check and the river comes a rag (so I now have 2d pair), how much of a bet do I call if he bets as I really have very little idea of where I am on the hand.

VPIP100 · #6 09-20-2007, 06:07 PM

That really depends on your read, I dont think your good there with JT if he bets the river if they play weak tight.

BigPoppa · #7 09-20-2007, 06:07 PM

I doubt he called the raise with unpaired overs (but it's not impossible). More than likely, he has a pair TT+. This puts you behind his range. Take your free card and hope you hit.

BTW: Don't miniraise.

wdead · #8 09-20-2007, 06:08 PM

I dont understand your flop raise at all. Are you trying to move him off a big pair? Are you trying to move him off AK. THe first isnt gonna happen and the second is pointless. Now you are lost on turn but I suppose you could either bomb it and hope he folds a big pair, but I really think you should just check it down man.

brianmarc · #9 09-20-2007, 06:13 PM

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Second, raise more on flop. That's basically a minraise.

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How much would you rasie, considering that in this game there are very few raises greater than the pot.

brianmarc · #10 09-20-2007, 06:20 PM

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I dont understand your flop raise at all. Are you trying to move him off a big pair? Are you trying to move him off AK.

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Good question. I'm pot-building in case my outs arrive but I'm also defining the hand. If he folds, I'll take the pot. If he calls, I have the lead for a play at the pot on the Turn, and, most important, if he plays back at me on the flop, I know I'm beat cos' he's terrified I'd play back at him. Remember: I'm in position against a weak-tight player-you can't figure the hand without that in mind.