AC scenario!!!

[boracay]

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I saw that coming, but I already pointed out that the mafia does not merely operate in black markets.

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Those other operations wouldn't sustain them at a level any higher than a gang of pickpockets..

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Their black markets are drugs (to a limited extent I think), gambling and prostitution. Their non-black markets are stolen goods, owning resteraunts or clubs, pornography, and so on. I think their non-black market activities are significant enough that they would stay successful even without the black market stuff. But I do agree that illegalization of gambling and prostitution is beneficial to them.

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Front operations for the mafia are often quite unprofitable. But if people are making money without initiating force on others what is your problem? They should be punished for when they initiate force not when they don't.

What problem do you have with the mafia that you don't have with the state? The protection racket is the same from both.

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Let's take an existing example - mafia in Southern Italy and i kindly ask you to explain how would it work in ACism.

Ok, they make money out of prostitution, drugs, illegal gambling, illegal money lending, etc. Ok, let say most of people can get away from that.

What about protection rackets, briberies for all businesses there and impact of terrorizing when confronted against their members at courts, fear of policemen, etc.

Mafia is the biggest business enterprise in Italy with revenue of 126B$/year, not comparable to any company there and it's known that basicly all businesses in the South have to pay 'protection' no matter how big or important the company is.

So, the question is, how would it be possible to reduce these threats of a private army called Mafia in ACism, when even now even independent, highly trained government forces with almost unlimited budget and personal cannot?

[tomdemaine]

Firstly through bribery and intimidation the mafia uses the power of the state to mean that most of it's victims have no good means of defending their property. The state is "supposed" to do it but somehow doesn't manage it. Secondly if you are worried about people being forced to pay money against their will or suffer horrible personal consequences for doing nothing more than starting a business or living in a vertain place. Would you be concerned more with a 126B$/ year business or a multiple Trillion $/year business?

[tomdemaine]

YOU CAN'T GET RID OF SLAVERY! PEOPLE MIGHT BECOME SLAVES!!!! OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMGGOMGZZZZ!

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YOU CAN'T GET RID OF SLAVERY! PEOPLE MIGHT BECOME SLAVES!!!! OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMGGOMGZZZZ!

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