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Old 11-13-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t50)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5960
UTG+1: t18366
MP1: t4577
MP2: t2782
CO: t11964
Hero: t6352
SB: t8257
BB: t5845

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, CO calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1000)</font>, Hero calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1400)</font>, SB calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1800)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t2000, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t400</font>...

Is this a spot to push?

I had been pushing somewhat regularly (and taking down pots) leading up to this, causing others to comment. They wanted to play cheap, so I was fairly certain I wouldn't get raised preflop, but might get looked up. But was it a bad limp?
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

Starting pot is 1K. With 6300 I'm usually saving chips from playing hands like this. I wouldn't push in this spot, especially with SB and BB still to act; a call is good. You're getting 6:1 plus implied odds. Besides, if SB or BB wakes up with a 9 you'll be glad you only lost the 400 on the flop.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

In short, No

I agree with yNnOs here, as played just call 400 and see what happens

Keeping the pot smaller works to your benefit here, especially if you turn club. Either way, pushing on the flop with your remaining stack is fairly awkward, not to mention quite problematic if the blinds wake up with a hand or good/better draw.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

I don't like limping into this pot with 15BBs even if you are in position..

As played I would make a good sized raise to 2400 or so thus representing a strong hand and committing yourself to the pot..
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

Ok, thanks for the feedback. I pushed, got called by T9, picked up a club on the turn, hit a K for a straight on the river. (brag) I went on to use those chips to finish second.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

Well I liked that when you made the semi bluff all in you did it with outs... and thats about all I like with this hand... nice result though ;P ... and nice finish
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

preflop call is borderline imo - but that is a difficult stack-size - too deep to push, too shallow to call.

as you have no overcards this is a 8-outer so you need a good ammount of FE to raise. You might get some of the smaller PP to fold, but for sure no Q and no 9 - but overall I don't think the flop texture is very favorable for a push so I would also just call.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

With an M of 6 I don't like calling pre. This almost looks like a good spot to jam though. Depending on table image and dynamics... I think you could appear pretty strong here. Am I wrong in thinking that?

fold&gt;shove&gt;call

Edit: Folding is still your best option though.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

^I'm talking about pre... didn't make that clear enough.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: $10/200 - Near Bubble, Shorty w/ OESD

fold preflop. you have 16BB limping is horrible you should only be raising any hand you enter which should only be with hands that you are willing to get all your money in the middle with.
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