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Old 10-04-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

Standard. Make a note - fairly loose and passive, will make thin VB on river.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

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Yeah but idiots that minraise monsters UTG also like to slowplay post flop, and are very easy to stack when you do hit.

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If this is why you called PF, you should call with anything, not just a pretty SC.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

John,

I'd like to know what you would do if he bets t500.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:18 PM
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Yeah but idiots that minraise monsters UTG also like to slowplay post flop, and are very easy to stack when you do hit.

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If this is why you called PF, you should call with anything, not just a pretty SC.

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What? SC has a much greater chance to hit if you see 4 or 5 cards than J6o. Dudes who minbet AA like to minbet the flop. They don't want to lose you. I'm not saying this is the only reason to call. But I'm saying the 20-1 of flopping 2p or better isn't the only consideration. There's implied odds.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:20 PM
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Standard. Make a note - fairly loose and passive, will make thin VB on river.

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lol at river being thin.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

Sorry - I meant small value bet. Not thin.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

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John,

I'd like to know what you would do if he bets t500.

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is puke an acceptable answer?

it is hard to give an honest answer afterwards because i now know what he has. but i am a nit so i probably just fold. i guess to some extent i have shown very little strenght and it looks like have a middle pair, a missed draw, or a non improved combo draw (65, 76, 87). so if you follow that logic he should be betting small with a king or better to extract value and only betting medium/big if he missed his hand and needs me to fold.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

I'm a station, but I probably call 500 on river people rarely check tp on this flop and a bunch of draws missed. When he bets 500 on this river he usually has 75, weird two pair or clubs.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 turn middle middle pair 3-way

I'd block bet river to avoid spewing of more chips/having to consider a 500 bet on the river. I dont like the check call personally.

you only have 1280 to start the hand, 980 on river. I don't like check calling 200 of chips, id rather lead 150 and if he raises then fold obv.
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Old 10-05-2007, 12:14 AM
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I'd block bet river to avoid spewing of more chips/having to consider a 500 bet on the river. I dont like the check call personally.

you only have 1280 to start the hand, 980 on river. I don't like check calling 200 of chips, id rather lead 150 and if he raises then fold obv.

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you are only talking a difference of 50 chips. he is never calling the river with a hand we beat, so better to let him bet 200 with air.
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