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#12
06-27-2007, 09:11 PM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
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What's your image like? I think this matters a lot in this hand. [/ QUOTE ] Probably fairly tag, not sure if villain knows that I have a fairly wide range to 3-bet PF with, much more so that my 9% PFR would suggest. 
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#13
06-28-2007, 12:15 AM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
Your hand is very under represented. It looks like JJ/TT or whiffed overs. Villain could very well think AQ is good here and be Value betting. Or just trying to blow you off of the hand since he perceives you as weak. So yes I like how you played this and I call the river.
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#15
06-28-2007, 02:38 AM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
I dont know You cant really go wrong with this hand, you couldve raised the turn, you couldve bet the flop, you can call or fold river, its a complete tossup since you have no info whatsoever here. I think this is one where I miniraise the turn and hope 2 get a free river, but id fold to any further aggresion.
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#16
06-28-2007, 03:52 AM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
If possible, I'd like a bit more in depth analysis of a strategy I've been trying on hands like this. A few people touched on it. It's fairly tough to get value on such scary board like this, and I may get semi-bluffed off the best hand. Since I 3-bet he likely thinks I've got a solid hand, and if I bet and get called/raised and the flop or turn, I'm usually behind. He's not going to call down with many worse hands. Therefore, by checking the flop, I'm setting myself up for future value bets, or bluff pickoffs on the hand, since he wouldn't expect me to play KK like this. FWIW, I sometimes play the same if I have AA or KK with the flush draw. I'm sure this outlook isn't new to a lot of people, but it's a strategy that I haven't used a lot until now. I'm realizing that giving a free card that can cost you the pot can sometimes be worth it if it leads to excess action when safe cards fall. Thoughts?
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#17
06-28-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
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I dont know You cant really go wrong with this hand, you couldve raised the turn, you couldve bet the flop, you can call or fold river, its a complete tossup since you have no info whatsoever here. I think this is one where I miniraise the turn and hope 2 get a free river, but id fold to any further aggresion. [/ QUOTE ] i like this line too. gets you to a cheap showdown, and if not, you're beat anyways.
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#18
06-28-2007, 11:54 AM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
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[ QUOTE ] ??? I thought you were just calling this flop to raise the turn, then I thought you were just calling this turn to rai the river. Duddddee....you have an overpair in a 3-bet preflop hand just push. Your only worried about qq/aa [/ QUOTE ] Who the hell are you? Can you leave this forum sometime soon please? [/ QUOTE ] I post mostly on SSNL, and I'm here wondering why you think our line is good: a) checking this flop b)flat calling turn We have no information on this hand because it was played so passively-villain could be bluffing with AK for all we know. While raising the turn could be a tossup, bet this flop always and its not even close.
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#19
06-28-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
btw those posts i made last night were under the influence of a horrible head cold and me being exhausted....lets just say they weren't coming from my a-game lol bad first impression of me. anyways I think this line is way too passive regardless.
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#20
06-28-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: NL200 on Full Tilt. My KK runs into heat on a monchrome board.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ??? I thought you were just calling this flop to raise the turn, then I thought you were just calling this turn to rai the river. Duddddee....you have an overpair in a 3-bet preflop hand just push. Your only worried about qq/aa [/ QUOTE ] Who the hell are you? Can you leave this forum sometime soon please? [/ QUOTE ] I post mostly on SSNL, and I'm here wondering why you think our line is good: a) checking this flop b)flat calling turn We have no information on this hand because it was played so passively-villain could be bluffing with AK for all we know. While raising the turn could be a tossup, bet this flop always and its not even close. [/ QUOTE ] Can you give your reasoning for why you think betting this flop is 'not even close'? I do pretty well in the FT 1/2NL game and I happen to think it is close, as do some other good players. Not saying you're wrong, as I very well could be the one that is wrong, but I'd like to know why you feel the arguement is so one-sided that betting the flop has to be right.
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