NL100: tpgk vs lag & maniac; I CR flop but no one cares

[five4suited]

Comments welcome on all streets. I'm really wondering how I might have played pf and the flop differently, along with what line I should be taking on the turn.

The maniac (65/32) is in EP and the LAG (40/11) is the BB.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $104.60
CO: $187.15
BTN: $50.55
Hero (SB): $97.55
BB: $135.55
UTG: $29.50
UTG+1: $160.75
MP1: $221.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BB calls $14, UTG+1 calls $9

Turn: ($51) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ???

[AlexB182]

I really think your c/r against those kind of opponents should be bigger, 22 - 25 would put them to a real decision.
BB c/coldcall still looks pretty strange, have you seen him slowplaying big hands so far? Is he the kind of c/c type of guy with trips?
Another good thing with a bigger c/r might have been that you could ve maybe isolated UTG+1. If you were only up against him, I honestly wouldn't mind going all the way here with TP2K...

[SABR42]

Easy 3-bet pre-flop.

As played probably just bet/call cause they can have so many worse hands.

[Panthro]

RR PF against a 65/32

On the turn I'd go broke all day against these two.

And 40/11 isn't exactly a LAG btw...

[five4suited]

Yeah, I definitely should have 3-bet preflop. Here's what happened in the rest of the hand:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $104.60
CO: $187.15
BTN: $50.55
Hero (SB): $97.55
BB: $135.55
UTG: $29.50
UTG+1: $160.75
MP1: $221.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BB calls $14, UTG+1 calls $9

Turn: ($51) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls $30, UTG+1 calls $30

River: ($141) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $51</font>, UTG+1 calls $51, Hero thinks for a while and folds

Results: $243 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Threes) and WON $240 (+$142 NET)
UTG+1 mucked J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Threes) and LOST (-$98 NET)

So a pf 3-bet probably would have won me lots of monies. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[pete6969]

I would not 3 bet vs a utg raiser unless i had history on him