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Old 10-30-2006, 02:19 PM
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Matter is matter. Whether you eat inanimate or animate matter is irrelevant. It is inanimate when you eat it, generally. Exotic diets aside.

I eat singluarities and hard candies. Crunching them has deletrious effects. There's a benefit though.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I don't think its the 'eating dead animals' that people object to. I think its the 'how come this animal is dead?'
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:31 PM
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No. I'd feel the same way about as if someone ate a friend of mine.

For I think there's an nonverbal agreement between man and wolf that each will eat the other and protect the other if it becomes necessary, and if it's not, just to have fun and take it easy.

My meat comes in vacuum packages. Who am I to know whether this came from cow, man, or dog? And, really, that's why I wonder sometimes. But I eat anyway. Because steak is great. So are eggs. You get some steak, eggs, toast... There's plenty of eggs to go around, every animal keeps reproducing.

I like vegetables. I eat a lot of 'em. But I'm healthier as an omnivore. Massing slightly over 80 kilos, I find vegetarianism just to be too much effort.

Could I give meat up? Sure. But I don't see the point. Do I accept responsibility for creating demand for meat, which causes those indignities against animals? Sure, but only my % of it. Do I feel guilt for it? Yes, sometimes, but I don't lose sleep over it.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:32 PM
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Matter is matter. Whether you eat inanimate or animate matter is irrelevant. It is inanimate when you eat it, generally. Exotic diets aside.

I eat singluarities and hard candies. Crunching them has deletrious effects. There's a benefit though.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I don't think its the 'eating dead animals' that people object to. I think its the 'how come this animal is dead?'

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I don't know, dude. Perhaps because it's easier than trying to chase a rabbit around with a fork and knife?
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:35 PM
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No. I'd feel the same way about as if someone ate a friend of mine.

For I think there's an nonverbal agreement between man and wolf that each will eat the other and protect the other if it becomes necessary, and if it's not, just to have fun and take it easy.

My meat comes in vacuum packages. Who am I to know whether this came from cow, man, or dog? And, really, that's why I wonder sometimes. But I eat anyway. Because steak is great. So are eggs. You get some steak, eggs, toast... There's plenty of eggs to go around, every animal keeps reproducing.

I like vegetables. I eat a lot of 'em. But I'm healthier as an omnivore. Massing slightly over 80 kilos, I find vegetarianism just to be too much effort.

Could I give meat up? Sure. But I don't see the point. Do I accept responsibility for creating demand for meat, which causes those indignities against animals? Sure, but only my % of it. Do I feel guilt for it? Yes, sometimes, but I don't lose sleep over it.

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I would be willing to guarantee you your eggs do not come from a human.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:36 PM
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Matter is matter. Whether you eat inanimate or animate matter is irrelevant. It is inanimate when you eat it, generally. Exotic diets aside.

I eat singluarities and hard candies. Crunching them has deletrious effects. There's a benefit though.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I don't think its the 'eating dead animals' that people object to. I think its the 'how come this animal is dead?'

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I don't know, dude. Perhaps because it's easier than trying to chase a rabbit around with a fork and knife?

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Right. Eating a dead animal, no moral qualms. Killing animals, potential moral qualms. The two are practically unrelated.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:43 PM
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No. I'd feel the same way about as if someone ate a friend of mine.

For I think there's an nonverbal agreement between man and wolf that each will eat the other and protect the other if it becomes necessary, and if it's not, just to have fun and take it easy.

My meat comes in vacuum packages. Who am I to know whether this came from cow, man, or dog? And, really, that's why I wonder sometimes. But I eat anyway. Because steak is great. So are eggs. You get some steak, eggs, toast... There's plenty of eggs to go around, every animal keeps reproducing.

I like vegetables. I eat a lot of 'em. But I'm healthier as an omnivore. Massing slightly over 80 kilos, I find vegetarianism just to be too much effort.

Could I give meat up? Sure. But I don't see the point. Do I accept responsibility for creating demand for meat, which causes those indignities against animals? Sure, but only my % of it. Do I feel guilt for it? Yes, sometimes, but I don't lose sleep over it.

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Accepting responsiblity without any consequence isn't much of a feat. It comes down to morality I suppose. Do you care about fellow animals enough to change eating habits, I guess you answered no.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:53 PM
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No. At least, not enough to give up meat for good. But when y'all come up with a palatable prosciutto cotto, let me know. How would I tell the difference?
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