200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot

[Fat Nicky]

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call the flop and then depending on how much he bets or if he bets the turn i would shove/pot the turn.

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i don't like this. to me, if he bets the flop AND turn, his hand is pretty strong and he's probably cool w/getting all the money in.

if I wait for the turn to raise, i end up putting in most of my stack as a pretty decent dog.

[Unknown Soldier]

raisy daisy

[Fonkey123]

i raise this 99% of the time

[Melchiades]

Why are we raising? What do we put him on? Certainly there is nothing terribly wrong about raising and it's def +EV, but I have a feeling calling might be more +EV against a lot of opponents.

Like I said earlier, the range we raise and get it in vs we are a dog to. So we are not really raising for value hoping for a call. Raising folds out midpairs and stuff like that, but I think we can get those to fold on the turn/river equally cheap. So I'm not sure why we should raise here 99% of the time.

I guess it feels a bit yuck when we just call and he bets big on a blank turn and we have to fold, but almost no one thats not completely spewtarded will do that with anything less than AK.

[ua1176]

this is one of those spots where i much prefer a PF flat-call as compared toa 3-bet.

[pineapple888]

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You honestly can't really go wrong either way in this hand.

I tend to call here more than many, but given that you don't have any history, I'd raise it up here. I tend to think people aren't that strong when they first make this play, and it's some really cheap metagame.

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Depends a whole bunch on stack sizes, reads, history.

In this particular spot I like a call based on all of these, and because my draws aren't all that obvious so my implied odds are very good when I hit, and I can just get away if I whiff and he keeps betting.

Plus I think we have 15 outs here exactly never.