Man kills 2 People While 911 Is Telling Him Not To

[James Boston]

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This is crazy. A Texas man shot and killed two men who were breaking into his neighbor's home - while a 911 dispatcher was on the phone telling him to stay in his house. According to changes in Texas law, he might not be convicted of murder. I'm fully in favor gun ownership and the right to defend yourself, but this seems excessive.

If this guy walks, is the grand jury crazy?

Here's the full 911 call: Link

[istewart]

Wow, sick. Down with black people ldo.

[istewart]

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Where are all the civic leaders protesting Sean Taylor's death. They haven't caught the murder yet. Hmm I wonder why there isn't any outcry? Could it be that when caught he will be a brother?

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lol youtube

[ElSapo]

Having listened to it, I'm pretty conflicted over this.

Obviously, he should have just stayed in his house. Whatever they were stealing was not worth the risk, in my opinion.

On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone. But the problem is that he's probably untrained, and you can hear the stress in his voice. While he probably didn't intend to commit murder, once he made the decision to go outside I'd say there was a high chance of him shooting someone.

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this guy walks, is the grand jury crazy?

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Not if they believe the men came into his yard.

[bobman0330]

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

[ElSapo]

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

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He also says "move and your dead" or something to that affect. But you're right, that's not going to sound good to a grand jury.

[James282]

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

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He also says "move and your dead" or something to that affect. But you're right, that's not going to sound good to a grand jury.

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It's almost definitely "Boom, you're dead@!"

[James282]

also, wow that the texas law says you can use deadly force to 'protect property'.

James

[ElSapo]

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On the other hand, I don't get the sense from the tape that he went outside intent on killing someone.

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He actually says "I'm going to kill them."

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He also says "move and your dead" or something to that affect. But you're right, that's not going to sound good to a grand jury.

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It's almost definitely "Boom, you're dead@!"

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Newspapers (some at least, I've only read a couple) are reporting it as "Move and your dead" .... I dunno.

I'm curious to hear how more people feel. I just can't get behind the absolute assertion that the guy was wrong. And I really don't think this is a strong case for gun control, or at least, not as strong as some people seem to think.

The guy realy sounds to me like he felt he didn't have a choice - he felt duty-bound to try and stop the thieves. He may well be an idiot, and he may really have been wrong. But I listen to the tape and it's just not so simple for me.

[El Diablo]

All,

Definitely recommend listening to the whole call before commenting. Really interesting to listen to.

Here's an article with more details on the event and the legal issues:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/5303222.html