it's been a while since anyone's posted one of these

[Nick Royale]

Push.

[Snipe]

While I don't think you're losing much by folding here, I'm not folding here for 140bb ever (although 2 in a million is pretty much 'never' for all intents and purposes).

A 20/9 probably see's your 19/17 play as pretty 'lagtard' as you're raising 2X as much as he things is proper. While it's a bit of a stretch, I think this reasoning can be used to at least add a couple hands other than KK+ AK+ to his rainge.

[RainbowBright]

I don't fold KK preflop for less than 150bb

[loosbastard]

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I don't fold KK preflop for less than 150bb

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Speaking in absolutes is just bad poker.

I'd have a hard time folding this, but it seems OK to me given stacks and the fact that we've only invested 4.5. His line is just so ridiculously strong. I always try to convince myself that they're doing this w/ QQ/AK...and against this type of opponent I'm almost always shown AA. Although, if stacks were a little shallower or if I was the 3-bettor, I'd probably just end up felting this.

[Jay Riall]

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whatever

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[RainbowBright]

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I don't fold KK preflop for less than 150bb

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Speaking in absolutes is just bad poker.

I'd have a hard time folding this, but it seems OK to me given stacks and the fact that we've only invested 4.5. His line is just so ridiculously strong. I always try to convince myself that they're doing this w/ QQ/AK...and against this type of opponent I'm almost always shown AA. Although, if stacks were a little shallower or if I was the 3-bettor, I'd probably just end up felting this.

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i agree that's it's bad to speak in absolutes, but even against the tightest of opponents, i can't come up with a range where it's -EV to push for less than 150bb.

[carrotsnake]

AA ?