stupid spot with QQ

[Bikini Wax]

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4bet pre

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[d2themfi]

Really dont like 4bet pre, and if I was playing my best Id just fold the flop the first chance i get

[CAMEL1111]

You have to call here.

[tannenj]

can the 4bettors elaborate? is this to isolate the fish? if the tag jams we have to call, right?

[philipsaurus]

i dont like 4betting here.

id call, then fold to nit shove. those kinds of guys wont be shoving AK there with the sb in there (even though he has decent equity even if fish has a pair). it would suck if he had KQ and you folded, but not all nits even 3ball KQ pf.

[Triumph36]

i like a 4 bet pre. there's a ton of dead money in the pot, and you are probably ahead of the fish.

as played call/fold. you are in a [censored] spot here nontheless - how do you expect to profit significantly from this hand, as played? nittag isn't c-betting without a hand, so most times you are giving 4 free cards to 2 players to beat you. GL.

[imozyslow]

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i like a 4 bet pre. there's a ton of dead money in the pot, and you are probably ahead of the fish.

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[illuminati]

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You have to call here.

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lol why

[jlocdog]

illuminati- substitute your name for xtwalkers...

Xtwalker- A SB fish can have as little as Jx here fwiw (with x usually being T+) or a straight draw. No way is a nitty TAG raising you without the goods. Call/fold is the line.

[Colombo]

I think you should 4bet this with like......99