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Old 10-21-2007, 10:22 AM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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Default Re: i\'m probably being really nitty about value here but....5-10nl hel

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you are too worried about not wanting a call OOP, that you are making all worse hands fold and better hands stay in. Also, your opponents will prob react to your bets in more of a push/fold manner instead of seeing flops. AQo isnt good enough to call AI most likely but by raising 20% of your stack and folding is pretty expensive when you could have raised to 130 or so instead.

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I think this is pretty much spot on. I'd definitely bet the flop too, as played I think I'd shove cos the pot is so large I think the range of hands that calls 300 but folds to a shove is minimal
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:29 AM
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wow
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: i\'m probably being really nitty about value here but....5-10nl hel

i agree i should bet flop with plan to check turn and push river.

i dont see what is that bad about preflop though, i should be worried about getting a caller pf with AQ oop, becuase a lot of the time postflop ill be completely clueless to where i am, which i don't like in a 3bet pot. i want to take it down pf, with AQ as a backup if i do get a caller(s).

fionnmac, wow in what sense?
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: i\'m probably being really nitty about value here but....5-10nl hel

yeh sorry if that was a little condescending, i just assumed pf was a misclick when i read OP and then found you defending it
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: i\'m probably being really nitty about value here but....5-10nl hel

preflop is too small, make it like $315
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:42 AM
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preflop is too small, make it like $315

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Awesome
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: i\'m probably being really nitty about value here but....5-10nl hel

no worries fionn, just was wondering.

i just think oop and the fact that ive been 3betting quite a lot recently means i need to make it a pretty big reraise given i want them both to fold.

if was button and was 3betting someone who had raised to $35 then i'd make it $130 or so, given there is another $35 in the pot i don't think $165 is therefore unreasonable, then including that im oop i'd add on say another $20 up to $185, then as well as the fact im 3betting wide say then add on another $20, and that's up to $205.

probably like many of these posts when almost everyone disagrees with me ill look back in months to come and think 'yep i was wrong' but as of now i think it makes sense.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:55 AM
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preflop is too small, make it like $315

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lol
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:00 PM
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:02 PM
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preflop is too small, make it like $315

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