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Old 11-26-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

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3bet flop 100% against that villian.

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i'd make it like 425 and snapcall push.

luego u seriously dont see why this is easy 4bet? there's am illion and one draws out there and u dont know which he has obv as you said... so given your history and how much you play back at each other u can get a ton of value from every overpair lik ethis and he'll probably shove his draws as well.

also one thing that is kind of sexy btw is to 3 bet flop and if he just calls, check back a blank turn. it gives him a free card some of the time but it stacks overpairs like always and he bluffs when he misses like 99%

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this was a good post and i concur fwiw...
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

oh one thing i lost my train of thought but the thing about not knowing which draw he has puts us in a bad spot this deep because he can value bet us to death and maybe give up if he misses... so getting all in vs whatever would be preferable obviously.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

well if i were to play back at him with air/draw in this instance, i would probably do it by just calling flop anyway. im not saying its a bad idea to play back and make it look like im FOS, but if i were to pull a move here, id float his c/r, not 3bet it most of the time anyway.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

then shove over any turn bet in that case. i dont know if that's what u did but that's what u should do.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

one more thing is SB is not fish but just reg or something, i check this flop back with this type of player this deep who's liable to c/r a ton of [censored] a fair amount of the time. with fish in tho you lose too much value i guess
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

pretty gross? lol
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:00 AM
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pretty gross? lol

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These sort of retarded one-liners are really bringing MSNL down.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

yeah i shoved, he had 85. anyway if he WAS full of [censored], im fairly certain he would fire turn anyway. and thats like hundreds and hundreds of dollars we are missing out on by threebetting flop. like i guess that if u had some weird fetish that u just HAD to re-rebluff dudes on suspicious boards, u could re-raise with AA here to balance but i think doing that constantly is pretty awful. so i like the floating more.

god im tired.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

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3bet flop 100% against that villian.

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i'd make it like 425 and snapcall push.

luego u seriously dont see why this is easy 4bet? there's am illion and one draws out there and u dont know which he has obv as you said... so given your history and how much you play back at each other u can get a ton of value from every overpair lik ethis and he'll probably shove his draws as well.

also one thing that is kind of sexy btw is to 3 bet flop and if he just calls, check back a blank turn. it gives him a free card some of the time but it stacks overpairs like always and he bluffs when he misses like 99%

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ok good, thought i was going crazy last night after the responses to my first post.

against villian described, hes prob not folding 99+ or overs+flush draw+combo draws. 3bet/snapcall/fistpumpetc.

and yes, its even more of a 3bet without the Ac.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: pretty gross AA decision vs tough lag

if my rhetorics are a bit fuzzy, its because i just played 13k hands with no rest in between. i cant think straight.
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