TPTK in RR pot against a LAG

[I_Like_Beer]

Villain is running at 36/23 with total Agg of 2.0. (Flop = 1.6; Turn = 2.5; River = 2.7)

Should I have bet turn? What should I do on the river?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $508.90
BB: $215.75
UTG: $193
CO: $325.05

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A dealt to Hero (BTN)
BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $15

Flop: ($44) Q 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, UTG calls $30

Turn: ($104) 8 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($104) 4 (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $75</font>, Hero ????


Thanks

[spivey]

I'd bet the turn for value, as played I call.

[deaders]

Turn check looks ok against this guy to induce on the river, definitely call as played.

[sebbb]

I think checking behind the turn for pot control is fine here.

I would call the river because you have shown weakness by checking behind and villain has a high enough AF. I would think if he had a monster he would have raised/bet at some point most of the time, and I don't really believe he has a flush/4 often.

[sebbb]

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I'd bet the turn for value, as played I call.

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Betting the turn for value seems good, but I'd rather do it in a non-reraised pot

[I_Like_Beer]

ok, thanks everyone. I actually timed out because I thought I had hit the time button, but I did not. So I folded.



About 2 orbits later, this hand happened against him. Pretty standard for me though

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $190.65
BB: $206.15
UTG: $447.65
BTN: $584.95

Pre-Flop: A A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $25, BTN folds

Flop: ($73) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $415.65 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $108.65 and is All-In

Turn: ($390.30) T (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($390.30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $390.30 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed A A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$190.65 NET)
UTG showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON $388.30 (+$197.65 NET)

[sebbb]

ya that 2nd one is std

[AMT]

id bet the turn again in hand 1 but checking is fine if you snap off this river bet, this is the type of player whose bluff frequency is going to be incredibly high in this spot, and i wouldnt hesitate to call.

hand 2 standard.

[LooseAggressive]

This is hand for hand one. I b/f the turn. I think you lose too much value checking through the turn. If you get check raised you can safely assume it is with a hand that has you beat. As played I just call the river.

[orange]

hand one seems fine.