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Old 10-01-2007, 07:21 AM
john kane john kane is offline
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Default My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

I had a complete overhaul of my game and am now playing really well (i think). I shot up a bit over 20 buyins at 2-4nl in a couple of days and felt really good. I then moved up to 3-6nl and have been breakeven/slight loss. I felt people here were folding far less to my continuation bets, be it regulars or fishies. So I adapted as I thought I should by mainly only betting my good hands, and then if i felt they were folding to my bets now i wasn't bluffing so much then i'd up the bluffing frequency. Always trying to keep the correct balance. I've dropped from 11 tabling down to 5-8 tabling which has really helped.

Anyways, I feel whenever Im breakeven for a couple of hours I start making some bad decisions, decisions which I wouldn't make if I had been running well the previous hour or two. Instead it a case of 'well if i call and lose im stil pretty much breakeven, but if i win then good'. whereas when im running well and up a decent amount i really feel i am making the correct folds, check-raise bluffs etc etc. Do any of you guys have this problem?

Here are 7 hands. Please glance over and post any comments on any of them. I know my PT stats are probably pretty important, but I'd rather not post them yet till i feel settled. But I'm playing a mix of tag and lag depending on the table.

HAND 1

Villain here is 55/16/1.25, seemed solid postflop but pf makes me think he's a bit crap. having a few problems with the convertor in terms of showing what i've been dealt so sorry for crappy looking editing.

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6 players, seat 5 is the button

Seat 1: UTG+1 ($453.25)
Seat 3: CO ($188.10)
Seat 5: BTN ($730.75)
Seat 6: SB ($729.40)
Seat 8: HERO ($465.30)
Seat 10: UTG ($364.00)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

UTG folds
UTG+1 calls
CO folds
BTN folds
SB folds
HEROraises to $36 WITH A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 calls

Dealing flop: (Pot is $75.00)
9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO bets $66
UTG+1 raises to $132
HERO calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $339.00)
8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO checks
UTG+1 bets $285.25
HERO IS ON MILD TILT AND THINKS [censored] THIS GAME AND calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $909.50)
K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Showdown is hidden

Now I know on the flop it's a flop, I am clearly beat. It's a 'im [censored] off so ill call'. not proper [censored] off as in on bad tilt, just [censored] this ive been playing for 6 hours today and still breakeven, [censored] it.

HAND 2

this guy was a 16/6. If I was second to act on the turn I would type 'you have KK or AA'. I figured on river given i wasn't folding if i check and he pushes then i should push myself and get paid off by AQ/AK. but i KNEW he had AA or KK, he couldn't of made it any more obvious. As for my pf raise, i usually like it but didnt forgot to check his stats and then when i saw he was a 16/6 i was like ah [censored] he probably has AA/KK. but ill always do this to a 24/12 type of player.



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6 players, seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: UTG ($1,762.10)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($289.52)
Seat 5: CO ($386.00)
Seat 6: BTN ($546.60)
Seat 8: SB ($277.25)
Seat 10: BB/HERO ($413.30)

SB posts small blind, $2.00
BB posts big blind, $4.00

UTG calls
UTG+1 folds
CO folds
BTN folds
SB calls
HERO raises to $32 with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls
SB folds

Dealing flop: (Pot is $68.00)
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

HERO (thinking awesome 8 on flop) bets $56
UTG calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $180.00)
A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO checks
UTG bets $64
HERO (thinking oh [censored] he must have AA or KK with that utg limp-call pf and weedy turn bet) calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $308.00)
9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO (should check-fold but instead...) bets $261.3
UTG calls

Showdown is hidden

HAND 3 - NEW:
what do you think of this play, i kinda quite liked it, trying to be far more aggressive. also with only playing 6 or so tables i can remember what plays ive made vs which opponents so can remember when to shove next time depending on what i think he will put me on

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6 players, seat 5 is the button

Seat 1: UTG+1 ($483.55)
Seat 3: CO ($140.00)
Seat 5: BTN ($654.99)
Seat 6: SB ($983.23)
Seat 8: BB/HERO ($365.40)
Seat 10: UTG ($131.72)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

UTG folds
UTG+1 raises to $12
CO folds
BTN calls
SB folds
HERO ([censored] it, it's only $6) calls with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Dealing flop: (Pot is $39.00)
7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HEROchecks
UTG+1 bets $30
BTN folds
HERO (who has read the 'semibluff' article in a book) raises to $104
UTG+1 calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $247.00)
A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO (is thinking dream scare card) bets $249.4
UTG+1 calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $745.80)
3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Showdown is hidden

HAND 4 - LOW: wtf can you [censored] fold!

this is what i mean about some people never [censored] folding:

this guy was a pretty solid 27/12 or so, postflop normal


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6 players, seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: UTG ($450.00)
Seat 3: UTG+1 ($600.00)
Seat 5: CO/HERO ($840.20)
Seat 6: BTN ($788.00)
Seat 8: SB ($456.65)
Seat 10: BB ($905.65)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

HEROraises to $24 with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BTN calls
SB folds
BB folds

Dealing flop: (Pot is $57.00)
2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO bets $48
BTN calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $153.00)
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO (oh yeah, another great scare card, in your face opponent) bets $130
BTN calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $413.00)
6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

HERO (ah [censored]) checks
BTN checks

Showdown: (Pot is $413.00)
CO has
8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BTN has
7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BTN wins $410 (Profit: $208)

HAND 5 - LOW: omg i am clearly repping something better than you crap pair of 5s.

and another example.....he was 40/12 or so, pretty normal postflop. okay maybe his calldown is pretty standard


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5 players, seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: UTG ($506.00)
Seat 3: CO ($101.40)
Seat 6: BTN ($1,038.90)
Seat 8: SB ($384.25)
Seat 10: BB ($645.50)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

UTG/HERO raises to $24 with T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
CO folds
BTN folds
SB calls
BB folds

Dealing flop: (Pot is $54.00)
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB checks
HERO bets $42
SB calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $138.00)
2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks
HERO (thinking opponent has something pretty crap) bets $121
SB calls

Dealing river: (Pot is $380.00)
3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB is all-in $197.25
HERO (balls) folds

Showdown: (Pot is $577.25)
UTG has
T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB has
4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB wins $574.25 (Profit: $190)

HAND 6 - NEW: trying to check raise a lot more. not a good example as i imagine we all play the same way, but maybe in earlier times i'd of value bet river. villain pretty passive.

this guy spent a good 10 mins berating me for how i played this, i thought i owned him.

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5 players, seat 3 is the button

Seat 3: BTN ($78.70)
Seat 5: SB ($1,127.28)
Seat 6: HERO ($297.85) - half stack....
Seat 8: UTG ($591.00)
Seat 10: CO ($1,297.75)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

UTG calls
CO raises to $24
BTN folds
SB folds
HEROcalls with T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds

Dealing flop: (Pot is $57.00)
5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

HERO checks
CO bets $30
HERO calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $117.00)
T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

HERO (ready to checkraise) checks
CO checks

Dealing river: (Pot is $117.00)
A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO (hoping CO has AK) checks
CO bets $54
HERO raises to $194
CO calls

Showdown: (Pot is $505.00)
BB has
T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

CO has
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB wins $502 (Profit: $254)


HAND 7

this is the kind of player i never use to make. but experimenting with it now. CO is 37/22 or so and button standard.

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5 players, seat 3 is the button

Seat 1: CO ($1,589.13)
Seat 3: BTN ($364.39)
Seat 5: HERO ($650.70)
Seat 6: BB ($450.00)
Seat 8: UTG ($598.00)

SB posts small blind, $3.00
BB posts big blind, $6.00

CO raises to $24
BTN calls
HERO (having read on 2+2 about 3betting laggy raises in late position with a caller) raises to $120
UTG folds
CO calls
BTN folds

Dealing flop: (Pot is $270.00)
J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

HERO ([censored] it, im pot committed if i fire pot and he shove, so lets googogo)bets $530.7
CO folds

Showdown: (Pot is $800.70)
SB has
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB wins $797.7 (Profit: $147)


There are some positives (i hope) some negatives, and a lot still to learn.

Any thoughts on any hands welcome. I've hidden some showdowns but i think you can guess from my commentary.

replies really appreciated as this has taken me over 30 mins to post. dang converting hands.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:23 AM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

Too many hands.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

lol yeah i agree. when i read it over i was like wtf, this is a mess for someone to read, but having spent a bit over 30 mins i thought [censored] it, let's post it all the same. ill put a couple into separate posts.


edit: i did spend time trying to clean it up, put in HERO etc, but still looks bad.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

hands like no.1 tilt me sooo hard. these 50/10/whatever mofos with there stupid minraises... i am often calling these retards down in hands like these, and ur def ahead sometimes...but most of the time they still have want they are trying to represent..

hand 2: ... u has sooo sick reads. come on u cant seriously considered folding this!??!?!

hand 3: i love when fishies limp/minraise pf and then overbet EVERY flop when its checked to them. i prolly play the same way if i (wont happen often) call pf

hand 4: standard...take a note about this guy though.

hand 5: i give up on flop or turn... i dont like cbetting paired flop 100% of the time because nobody ever folds... also if villain can read hands ur turn bet doesnt make too much sense.... unless u want to merge ur range in these spots for some reason

hand 6: ok i guess... i have a look at wtsd and riveraggr before it check the river.

hand 7: i 3bet to 100$, cbet 160$ and fold to a shove... bad?
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

frings, to reply to your thoughts

hand 1, i agree its annoying, sometimes he'll show me A6, othertimes AK. this time he shows me Q9 for flopped 2 pair. I kinda knew he had me beat, but was pissed off so i called.

hand 2, i seriously don't see how this is not a pretty easy fold. what hand range do you put him on given he:
- limps utg and calls a raise to 8BB. flat calls my flop bet and then makes a very small bet on the turn.

hand 3, i probably should of folded pf, this is so reverse implied pot odds, but im trying to give the image of a loose aggressive player so folding to min raises isn't too cool when in BB.

hand 4 - i probably should of made a post for this hand and ask who fires the 3rd barrel on the river. i just pissed off with myself when i lose a buyin on a 3 barrel oop bluff, im just firing and hoping. especially when they call my river bluff with raggy ace or some [censored] like that.


hand 5 - agreed i shouldnt of bet turn given he has called flop, but so often i get called with K high, A high on my cbets, i figured it was worth another barrel, but in general a bad spot for a 2nd barrel.

hand 6 - i dont have the wtsd stat on hud, probably should, i just have vpip/pfr/total aggression

hand 7 - i dont think thats a bad line, but only if your playing pretty taggy, i was pretty laggy on the table and, although my 3 bet is a bit too high, at the time i felt i needed a big 3 bet. i definitely need to sit down in front of a spreadsheet and work out 3 bet sizes based on stack sizes so i dont pot commit myself on the flops.

thanks for the reply frings
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

hand 2: i could imagine a lot more hands: 55, 67, Ax spades, AK
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

whats your new style? playing with 2/3 buyin?
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:53 AM
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frings, is a 16/6 really limping utg with 67s Ax spades and calling a raise to 8BB, i really don't see it tbh. as for AK that's the only reason i decided to call, but i think an 16/6 probably raises AK utg as it's a non paired and not strong enough to slowplay (in the eyes of a 16/6). 55 maybe as well, why i raised pf was becuase i thought he had a PP and would fold it pf.

tozzy, i know the post is a bit of a letdown in that i dont really say what im doing differently, but i want more of a sample size before i post it. for all i know it could just be variance.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: My new style: the problems, the lows, and the new-s.

[ QUOTE ]
whats your new style? playing with 2/3 buyin?

[/ QUOTE ]

this is actually a good point. if u wanna play more aggressive u should pay attention that u always have a full buyin.
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