15K Gtd. Stars. Bubble decision vs. 2 opps

[GoRedBirds]

I'm at work so I apologize for no HH.

$11 buy-in $15K gtd. on stars last night.
~195 people left. 180 is ITM.
Blinds are 300/600 with a 25(?) ante. Average stack is ~13000.
My stack is ~4,000 after I post the BB.
MP1 makes it 1800 and is called by MP2. Folds to me and I look down at 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. My friend and I disagreed about this one. Any thoughts?

Both opponents have slightly more than the average.

[HitmanHaydon]

I would fold and look to push any two into next unopened pot.

[Mingdu]

I push this and look to triple up heading into the money or go home trying

[GoRedBirds]

Is a call out of the question here? If my stack is not going to do any damage anyway, Can I set-mine and fold if I miss? I'm pretty sure that I'd back into the money but wouldn't be able to make a serious run with my stack as low as it was (The next pay level was ~140 IIRC).

[Mingdu]

Pushing creates difficult decisions for the other two parties.

If the MP1 calls then MP2 can push over top ... so he needs to make a tough choice. MP2 didn't reraise so was likely wanting to see a flop.

You are likely ahead of a lot that call you here.

[Sherman]

I'd fold here.

Well...maybe I wouldn't. You are more desperate than I originally thought. This may be a push.

[Rocco]

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Is a call out of the question here? If my stack is not going to do any damage anyway, Can I set-mine and fold if I miss? I'm pretty sure that I'd back into the money but wouldn't be able to make a serious run with my stack as low as it was (The next pay level was ~140 IIRC).

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A call is out of the question. You don't have the stack size to get enough implied odds on a set. Furthermore, your stack isn't deep enough to stop'n'go. Folding here is probably not wrong. If you push, they will get sweet odds to call, so don't think they'll ever fold. I fold this!

[HitmanHaydon]

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Is a call out of the question here? If my stack is not going to do any damage anyway, Can I set-mine and fold if I miss? I'm pretty sure that I'd back into the money but wouldn't be able to make a serious run with my stack as low as it was (The next pay level was ~140 IIRC).

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Calling 1/3 of your stack then folding is very bad.
As I said I would probably fold, but pushing to try to get it heads up with some overlay is an option.

[registrar]

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Is a call out of the question here? If my stack is not going to do any damage anyway, Can I set-mine and fold if I miss? I'm pretty sure that I'd back into the money but wouldn't be able to make a serious run with my stack as low as it was (The next pay level was ~140 IIRC).

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A call is out of the question. You don't have the stack size to get enough implied odds on a set. Furthermore, your stack isn't deep enough to stop'n'go. Folding here is probably not wrong. If you push, they will get sweet odds to call, so don't think they'll ever fold. I fold this!

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I don't think a stop and go is that bad here. Hero's remaining stack is large enough that it puts OR in a very difficult spot on the flop, with a big stack flat-caller behind.

All the options are pretty grim but I would guess that the EV of pushing pre-flop and pushing any flop are more or less the same.

Calling pre-flop and then folding is the only really bad option.

[registrar]

Actually, I take that back. We're left with 2200 to push, not 2800, so we'll need some really bad opponents for this to ever work.