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Old 08-24-2007, 01:18 PM
durrrr durrrr is offline
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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Your hand = like A3. Would you ever consider calling that?

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I'd almost never call A3 except a v v v small amount if i had the As... gimme AT+ please
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:19 PM
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terken this looks like a fold w/ info you gave- and you know that, obv i call it sometimes etc but i dont see why your saying he cant have any high pp's... i don't think you can be confident that he raises them 100% on the flop
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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I'm not sure I follow. Suppose he raises the turn. We push. He gets X to 1.

Suppose this happens. We push river (assume no 7 or 2 pair on board ofcourse). How is this any different from putting the fourth bet in on the turn?
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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Think he pretty much always 3bets big pairs preflop.

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Maybe I'm not reading this right, but how can he 3 bet if he is the initial raiser? Also, I would fold.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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(this is re: OverseerXX)

I'm not sure I follow. Suppose he raises the turn. We push. He gets X to 1.

Suppose this happens. We push river (assume no 7 or 2 pair on board ofcourse). How is this any different from putting the fourth bet in on the turn?

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Are you serious? The dynamics of re-raising the turn vs. pushing all-in after seeing the river are completely different. I agree that villain is getting the same pot odds to call the bet, but the context in which those pot odds apply are not the same at all.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

My bad remembered the hand wrong. Thought I closed action preflop. Durrr have you played Bennybula btw?
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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Think he pretty much always 3bets big pairs preflop.

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Maybe I'm not reading this right, but how can he 3 bet if he is the initial raiser? Also, I would fold.

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Old 08-24-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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My bad remembered the hand wrong. Thought I closed action preflop. Durrr have you played Bennybula btw?

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So because u thought u were the one raising preflop u didnt think he would have a big pair. Costly mistake or lucky call?
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

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(this is re: OverseerXX)

I'm not sure I follow. Suppose he raises the turn. We push. He gets X to 1.

Suppose this happens. We push river (assume no 7 or 2 pair on board ofcourse). How is this any different from putting the fourth bet in on the turn?

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Are you serious? The dynamics of re-raising the turn vs. pushing all-in after seeing the river are completely different. I agree that villain is getting the same pot odds to call the bet, but the context in which those pot odds apply are not the same at all.

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Yeah, I'm serious. How does shoving river allow him to play perfectly, whereas shoving turn doesn't? Are river shoves always unbalanced enough that he can't ever call with worse than what I assume you consider the nuts, given that your analysis starts on the flop?
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: 265bb deep 50/100 hu hand

You don't think I might knew who raised preflop when the hand was played?
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