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Old 11-20-2007, 06:22 PM
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I'm suprised Bodog have Ron English and Bielema so high
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:45 PM
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i want to hear from people who know: is les miles really dumb? what about that sick fake field goal backwards flip? that was amazing.

no one could be a dumber game-coach than lloyd. it must be pretty easy to gameplan against a team that runs "stretch left" on 90% of their rushing plays. oh yeah, and throw the [censored] ball over the middle you [censored].
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:54 PM
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no one could be a dumber game-coach than lloyd. it must be pretty easy to gameplan against a team that runs "stretch left" on 90% of their rushing plays.

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they were really effective up the middle and to the right imo

lol i hate michigan fans like you... absolutely hate them. Second guessing, whiny and generally not having any idea what they are talking about.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:04 PM
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Second guessing, whiny and generally not having any idea what they are talking about.

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Because this coaching staff never left anything second guess the past 6 seasons?

Go Google the quotes from the after the Rose Bowl last year. USC players were openly mocking how predictable our offense was and how easy we are to stop. The same thing after Appalachian State -- "predictable" was the one word heard most frequently when they described Michigan. No one disagrees with this. Lloyd Carr Michigan teams ARE easy to "gameplan" against because there's no gameplan necessary. Self-admittedly, the program doesn't value deception, they value execution. The philosophy over the last few years has been: take the best players you can find and mold them into 'mistake-free', executing robots.

I won't address "whining", but it's a completely valid criticism to say we were ridiculously easy to gameplan against. That's almost by design. They threw in wrinkles against the Notre Dame's and Ohio State's of the world, but the basic gameplan on the offensive side of the ball has been pretty much the same for a while now, from DeBord to Parrish to Malone and then back to DeBord again.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:07 PM
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DVuat -

what you said is different, we clearly are pretty predictable, but the reason we run left a lot is because of jake long and the right side of our line blows.

As for some of the classic in vogue criticisms...
-Bench Henne, put in Mallet (I heard this in the stands all [censored] day, really pissed me off)
-Bench Brady, put in Henson! (lolz)
-[censored] Braylon, he always drops the ball

thats just off the top of my head.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:35 PM
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One of you guys needs to change your avatar; it looks like you are arguing with yourself.

There are many valid criticisms of the Carr regime, but I understand ike's view that there are certainly many baseless results-oriented criticisms too. The people behind me at games this year, for example, ragged on Morgan Trent despite Trent being very solid this year and us not having anyone to replace him with if he did suck.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:21 AM
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no one could be a dumber game-coach than lloyd. it must be pretty easy to gameplan against a team that runs "stretch left" on 90% of their rushing plays.

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they were really effective up the middle and to the right imo

lol i hate michigan fans like you... absolutely hate them. Second guessing, whiny and generally not having any idea what they are talking about.

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easy there
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