AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot

[matt85]

It's not brilliant IMO because I really cant see how it can be more +EV than betting c.$40 because by shoving you lose so much value from donks who will call down a regular 2/3 pot bet with 99 etc without realising they are then completely priced into calling the turn.

I would only really be tempted to use this line occasionally against a thinking reg to balance your range when you do it with semi-bluffs.

Not awful but not as good as betting $40 IMO.

[clowntable]

Given history this is pretty sweet. He'll do his best to convince himself that you are on a heart draw and this def puts the pressure on him.
+ if he's wrong he might tilt hard

[Bulletproof Monk]

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I usually bet 40 in this spot

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is there any reason why you prefer to split your bets up in to:

40-49

as opposed to:

35-54?

given potsize increase the second just seems so much more smooth in terms of hand planning to me

[spalding]

I like it

[Nick Royale]

Betting 35-40 is better imo. Gives the illusion of fe and I don't think a push will get looked up lighter then a normal bet. It's seems you're mainly targeting the tag, but I can't see him calling an overbet in a 3-ways 3-bet flop light, especially with the donk left to act.

Betting smaller hoping he'll shove draws and marginal hands over the bet is way better imo. Both vs the tag and donk.

[traz]

I usually bet 39, hoping to induce some retardo raise. I probably wouldn't shove, but I'm not sure any of it matters in this case.

[agnoke10]

i sometimes do similar stuff, it all depends what you think he can call you with. IMO a shove def looks weaker than a 35ish bet, so maybe you can gain EV there?

[Daddy Warbucks]

I think there's two things to consider

1)A card might come off on the turn that will kill your action
2)He might be able to talk himself into a fold regardless of pot odds, because how many people will double barrel A high?

[Nick Royale]

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I think there's two things to consider

1)A card might come off on the turn that will kill your action
2)He might be able to talk himself into a fold regardless of pot odds, because how many people will double barrel A high?

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Thing is given stacksizes villain will push often when he continues (if we bet 35-40). The pot on the turn would be 130 with about 50 left each. I just think a push is way more likely to get either player fold a fd or some kind of pair. Unless the tag is on huge tilt or is a huge spew donkey he won't call with a marginal hand in this situation, esp given the relative positions.

[redCashion]

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Given history this is pretty sweet. He'll do his best to convince himself that you are on a heart draw and this def puts the pressure on him.
+ if he's wrong he might tilt hard

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If it was heads up with the reg I think you are representing a wider range of hands, being 3 handed I think this looks like a heart draw or a above average pair like TT-QQ that you think is good, and you are trying to make sure you don't have to deal with any hearts or overcards on the turn.

In some ways I would like the push better heads up since it looks weaker, but in the end even if you bet 40 you are committing your stack anyway, so not much of a diff..