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Old 11-08-2007, 11:01 AM
pt special pt special is offline
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Default 10/20 nl hand at the commerce

my buddy was at the commerce and had an interesting hand at .....10/20nl 7k effective stacks
he limpes 66 2 people limp behind blinds complete
flop J86 all spades, he leads for 120 and the BB calls, turn 8 bb cks he bets 330 and gets ck raised to 2k total
river 2x and he shoves for 4500...comments one what u think BB has, and do you fold or call the river
also, this was his 4th hand at the table so it against a complete random
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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Jesus, that's a big turn c/r.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:42 PM
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sounds like a random hand with an 8 in it, i doubt he has J8 he would have probably check raised on the flop...i would usually get it in, but these type of strange lines usually indicate super strength
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:06 AM
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Jesus, that's a big turn c/r.

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Old 11-10-2007, 01:28 PM
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His hand looks pretty consistent with flopped two-pair IMO. The live players I've played with won't raise the flop with two pair because "the flush is out there".

I've even seen some treat sets like a draw, or play a 7-high flush slow because their afraid of a bigger flush. Obviously, this is all less applicable at the commerce. But I still think his hand looks more like J8 or 86 than anything else.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:01 PM
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Obviously, this is all less applicable at the commerce. But I still think his hand looks more like J8 or 86 than anything else.

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Look, I'm done thinking about this hand in particular, but I think there is something that people should get about games at commerce. There is a big difference between a commerce 10/20NL game at 2PM on a weds afternoon, that at 2AM on a friday night. The games never play nitty and are never tough compared to internet games (which I normally play for my job btw), but they play much more passive and wimpy during the day. When I hear "commerce, you need to call you beat AA" I have certainly been in games like this at commerce and they regularly happen, but I have a feeling some people typing this have never even played there.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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Not enough info to fold here IMO. He'd probably have been led into by J8 and 86. That said tho, these plays live always seem to be the nuts...
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:54 PM
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Not enough info to fold here IMO. He'd probably have been led into by J8 and 86. That said tho, these plays live always seem to be the nuts...

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you think he takes that line with a hand like JJ or J8 with the monster ck raise on the turn
i thought it looked like a scared nut flush on the turn
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:37 PM
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Not enough info to fold here IMO. He'd probably have been led into by J8 and 86. That said tho, these plays live always seem to be the nuts...

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you think he takes that line with a hand like JJ or J8 with the monster ck raise on the turn
i thought it looked like a scared nut flush on the turn

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Obv not, since I said call.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:55 PM
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these plays live always seem to be the nuts...

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