NL200 - Overs + OESD in Blind Battle IP

Snipe · #1 11-13-2007, 03:29 AM

Villain: 28/8.3/0.63
Me: 22/19/3.9

Can I continue?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $200
CO: $423.40
BTN: $206.40
SB: $255.10
Hero (BB): $479.15

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $7, Hero raises to $25, SB calls $18

Turn: ($62) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $40

Hero???

lank4ever · #2 11-13-2007, 04:22 AM

I always shove here and never get a fold. Calling is probably profitable against the very strong range I put him on so I call and think about folding on on Q or J river.

herbstl · #3 11-13-2007, 04:28 AM

He shows strength on the Flop and on the river - I don't think he will fold often enough to a shove so I fold here.

Casper05 · #4 11-13-2007, 04:36 AM

easy call

RolloRolf · #5 11-13-2007, 05:22 AM

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Why? What about the times he'll hit his jack or queen and lose another bet on the river?

MadManJ · #6 11-13-2007, 05:39 AM

Given that villain has a very low aggr. overall, this is a easy fold. (this ofcourse depends on the turn aggr. of villain) You will find that when a nonaggro donk is turning aggro, He is often very strong. Im pretty sure you need more than a Q or J to win this hand.

martijn · #7 11-13-2007, 05:44 AM

I think I fold, but I rather shove than call here.

Casper05 · #8 11-13-2007, 03:19 PM

shoving is terrible.

Snipe · #9 11-13-2007, 04:00 PM

I really don't get the stop n go line. Is it only used by sould reading 28/8.3/0.63 players who know I have exactly QJ but would prefer to see a safe turn with their AT?

Anyway, I figured I had exactly 0 FE to AT which I think is pretty much the bottom of his range. I figured Q/J outs were questionable, and if he did have a ten, he wouldn't pay off enough when I hit a king for the call to be profitable.

I ditched the hand, but though it was pretty close. Still a bit unsure.

Paul Thomson · #10 11-13-2007, 04:08 PM

since the villain likely has a big hand then i think calling might be profitable... but is it obvious when we hit our hands and push? I also like to think that a 6 could be a good bluffing card but this goes against the idea of getting paid off if we do hit.

meh...i don't know.