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Old 10-24-2007, 05:15 AM
Torello Torello is offline
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Default 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

10-10-20 Full ring live. New table, ~15 hands in, never played with any of them before. Effective stack is my ~$2K. I thought villain was a solid, tight player.

UTG+1 limps/opens for 40, Hero in Hijack raises to 120 with AKo, Villain in BB calls, UTG+1 folds, heads up.

Flop ($300) 962r Villain checks, I bet $200, Villain calls.
Turn ($700) Q rainbow, Villain checks I check.
River ($700) J board is QJ962r Villain bets out $400, Hero pushes for about $1200 more.

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?


bad. what are you representing? from villain's perspective your line looks like classic "nuts or nothing": you basically either have a set or air, if he's a solid player as you say he should be able to figure this out. getting better than 2-to-1 i'd look you up with any pair.
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:42 AM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

Its quite likely villain has spiked a set too in this hand, only hand that wouldn't and he would bet the river is KK or a whiffed 78s. Don't see much value betting TT or 88 on the river as villain against an unknown. But its live so he might fold 66 right?
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

He's not folding much after his c/c, c, then lead river line as a tight player getting 2-1, given that I do not like it much.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

This is pretty bad. You're not repping anything and you know nothing about the villain that you're making this play at.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

good luck folding out a set/two pair
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

terrible. check the flop, if you are going to bet the flop bet the turn. easy fold on the river
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

Ok, thanks for the input. I'm relatively new to this level, I've recently moved up after killing lower level games for a little while.

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I thought villain was a solid, tight player.

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Fortunately, this read based on just looks was way off, and villain was a very poor player for these stakes, but in a weird aggro/illogical way, not in a calling station way.

He said "ok you have a set of Queens" and folded and then said he had AJ. When I thought about it after my session I realized it was probably a stupid bluff and I got lucky.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:39 AM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?


Isn't this a reasonable representation of JJJ?

Not saying I like the bluff just that I don't see how people can say we're not representing anything...

I thought that was a pretty standard pot control kind of line after a call on such a dry flop.
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: 10-20 How good/bad is this bluff?

bad
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