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Re: gettin silly again
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Last I will comment on this since we have reached an impasse. But do know that checking back KQ on a K53 board is not bad. If one continues to always fall back on default plans, one will always play hands in the same manner. Then ones defaults are what is going to cost him money. Thinking outside the box and being unorthodox in spots like these will do wonders for your image and make you appear to be mixing up your play alot when really you are just capitalizing on a great situation. It will also give much more credibility to your c-bets when you have Q9s on a 853 board. [/ QUOTE ] Just a question... why will checking behind KQ on a K-high board give more credibility to your c-bets with air? If anything, I'd have thought that if villain sees you check behind a decent but not great hand he will think your c-betting range is somewhat polarized and since you have air much more often than a really strong hand, he will play back at you more. |
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Re: gettin silly again
Sh58,
[ QUOTE ] to that guy who likes checking behind with KQ on a K53 board, this is terrible. we are cbetting this board every time we miss, so we have to Cbet it every time we hit or we become very easy to play agaisnt [/ QUOTE ] You may be c-betting this flop every time you miss. I am not. I don't auto c-bet any board just for the sake of the board texture alone. My opponent impacts my c-bets far more then anything else. members_only, [ QUOTE ] Just a question... why will checking behind KQ on a K-high board give more credibility to your c-bets with air? If anything, I'd have thought that if villain sees you check behind a decent but not great hand he will think your c-betting range is somewhat polarized and since you have air much more often than a really strong hand, he will play back at you more. [/ QUOTE ] Because the times I choose not to c-bet when I hit the flop fairly good will often result in one of two way. Either it goes to showdown and he sees my hand thus making my c-bets very tough to read as well as my non c-bets. Or secondly, I end up taking the pot down on the turn/river without showdown and leave my opponent completely confused on WTF I could possibly have had. Now this line sets up a nice bluff/float for later. And what exactly am I polarizing? If anything I think we do the exact opposite. Remember, we are not always checking behind with TPGK. There are just certaiin spots where by doing this every once in a while keeps certain opponents on their toes and makes you harder to read....not easier. As always this play is situational. The hand I described against the opponent stated seems like a good spot for it. As said before, mix up your play when the cards are in your favor. This will allow you to set up that bluff or atleast that image of being able to pull one off. Doing this the other way (bluffing to set up some FPS) is not the way to go. Thus mixing up your play for a reason... |
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Re: gettin silly again
jlocdog,
'And what exactly am I polarizing?' All I was saying was that if I saw one hand in isolation where you check behind KQ on a K53 flop, I would be inclined to think that you liked to check behind ok made hands for pot control and bet with very strong hands for value or air as a bluff. This would make you easier to read imo than if you bet everything. And I don't see why it would make me give you more credit if you fired on a flop of 853. Obviously though like you say you will actually bet tpgk most of the time, just it's good to check behind occasionally for balance. However I am not very clear on why you think this spot (K53 flop vs solid tag regular) would be particularly good for it? |
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Re: gettin silly again
Not as much risk with the hand stated as there is with other hands to board textures.
And when you say you would pass a judgement on my play over one hand if you were at my table....well that is exactly what I want now, isn't it. Now when I c-bet my good hands you might play back at me light. Or conversely, when I check behind when I airballed, you may be fearful of a monster. edit to add- Vs. a TAG who relies heavily on default lines will misread your hand quite often since you should be betting this flop. |
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