We win (AP Scandal v. 27)

[CroMagnon]

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A rogue programmer who feels he got ripped off by AP management would fit a lot of the actions. Perhaps he didn't get the fair compensation he felt he deserved while Scott Tom lives a lavish lifestyle. By cheating in the rather obvious manner with mgt. accts he discredits AP, acquires a huge pile of cash so he can make a quick exit and watch the company burn to the ground while sipping margaritas and earning 20% in T-bills. Maybe they can get Alan Rickman to play the part.

Cro

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He would've not only needed to play with the management accounts, but use the IPs of those respective account holders' homes and businesses as well.

Not likely, if not impossible.

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IP addresses are not hard to spoof.

[jhill3535]

http://www.gambling911.com/Absolute-Poker-101907.html
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Absolute Poker Admits "Internal Breach"
Absolute Poker on Friday morning admitted an "internal breach" following accusations from the online poker community that a company "employee" had been able to see other players whole cards.

An official from the company admitted the breach and that Absolute had only uncovered who the culprit was Thursday afternoon.

"Players who were affected by this unfortunately situation will be paid in full," the official told Gambling911.com. "Furthermore, a third party investigation has already gotten underway and we will be inviting anyone from the online poker community who wants to take part in this investigation as a means of ensuring how committed we are to getting this matter resolved."

No management personnel were involved in this incident, the company official relayed.

"The person in question knew the internal system at Absolute Poker intimately. We want to ensure everybody that no person can hack into our system from the outside."

Absolute Poker is working diligently to have this matter resolved.

"We need to prove to the online poker community that this can never happen again," the official said.

A company statement sent out to the public was expected by late afternoon Friday.

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Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com Publisher

Originally published October 19, 2007 10:59 am ET

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[HatesLosing]

This belongs in the speculation thread but fwiw, that doesn't make a lot of sense because why would no person in management realize that their accounts were being used and tons of money that they didn't win was funneling through their accounts?
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A rogue programmer who feels he got ripped off by AP management would fit a lot of the actions. Perhaps he didn't get the fair compensation he felt he deserved while Scott Tom lives a lavish lifestyle. By cheating in the rather obvious manner with mgt. accts he discredits AP, acquires a huge pile of cash so he can make a quick exit and watch the company burn to the ground while sipping margaritas and earning 20% in T-bills. Maybe they can get Alan Rickman to play the part.

Cro

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[ChrisV]

I don't doubt that they have been lying. There's no chance I'm personally playing at AP again. However, if they come clean now, I will not be sufficiently angered to spend considerable time and money trying to ruin the company. If they DON'T come clean, though...

[Body Man D]

[apefish]

Nat,

Please don't post anything yet.
The more posted - the more complete information Absolute has to work with in crafting whatever they intend to eventually say.
Let them squirm, let them decide to tell more truth, let them decide to lie more.
It doesn't matter much right now if they can be debunked further if they coverup more.

[_Gabe_]

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This belongs in the speculation thread but fwiw, that doesn't make a lot of sense because why would no person in management realize that their accounts were being used and tons of money that they didn't win was funneling through their accounts?
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A rogue programmer who feels he got ripped off by AP management would fit a lot of the actions. Perhaps he didn't get the fair compensation he felt he deserved while Scott Tom lives a lavish lifestyle. By cheating in the rather obvious manner with mgt. accts he discredits AP, acquires a huge pile of cash so he can make a quick exit and watch the company burn to the ground while sipping margaritas and earning 20% in T-bills. Maybe they can get Alan Rickman to play the part.

Cro

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My question is, why does management even have player accounts? Conflict of interest, ldo.

[Cruzincat]

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A rogue programmer who feels he got ripped off by AP management would fit a lot of the actions. Perhaps he didn't get the fair compensation he felt he deserved while Scott Tom lives a lavish lifestyle. By cheating in the rather obvious manner with mgt. accts he discredits AP, acquires a huge pile of cash so he can make a quick exit and watch the company burn to the ground while sipping margaritas and earning 20% in T-bills. Maybe they can get Alan Rickman to play the part.

Cro

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Actually I think the guy from Seinfeld who stole the embryos in Jurassic Park would be great! Rickman would be too smart to get caught.

[KurtSF]

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Aren't you neglecting the initial investigation they said they conducted? Take your pick, but they are either lying or incompetent, and in either case why reward them with further business when there are plenty of other rooms to choose from?

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It really is impossible to be this incompetent. Its like the POTRIPPER HHs. Yeah, I guess its possible POTRIPPER was this lucky, but any serious review shows cheating, 100%. Yeah, I guess its possible AP are this incompetent, but any serious review of their statements shows coverup, 100%.

How about their statement that there was no cheating and no chip dumping? How about their statement there was no cheating but there was random chip dumping? How about their removal of DNS addresses once we were onto them? How about their statement that they re-opened the investigation after their previous statement said it was ongoing (if it was never closed, how can it be reopened)? How about their statement that Scott Tom was not involved with AP in over a year? How about their statement that no one from management is involved?

This is 15 standard deviations of incompetence.

[Guthrie]

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If a hacker or rogue employee gained access to AP's systems, why would they commandeer accounts owned by AP bigwigs? Wouldn't this virtually guarantee them getting noticed?

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Maybe that was the intention.

Greed and stupidity are certainly two explanations for the audacity shown in the god-mode hand histories from the tournament, but they're not the only explanations.

If I wanted to steal a large sum of money by cheating at online poker, I like to think I would have gone to great lengths to prepare the playing field long before starting the actual cheating, and then exercised considerable restraint in play so as to cover my tracks. I certainly would not have used accounts that could so easily be linked to me by any teenager who can spell "google."

If, on the other hand, I wanted to cause maximum damage to a company, for whatever reason, I would use existing accounts easily traceable to company insiders, then cheat in such an outrageous manner that it would be almost certain to arouse widespread suspicion.

I'm not saying that's what happened, greed and stupidity are certainly just as likely, as is drug-induced delusion, but any good investigator will look into all plausible motives.