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Old 08-16-2006, 09:28 AM
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Default NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

villan was 30 $VPIP

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $38.80
UTG+1: $5.25
MP1: $5.30
MP2: $25
CO: $25
Button: $38
SB: $15.75
BB: $25.65

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls, 2 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.1, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.1, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $5</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $17.1

I check/called because i felt there was a chance of a straight, just instinct.
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:54 AM
Ben Young Ben Young is offline
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

I think you need to refine your instinct. You're seriously worrying about 68 or 36 here? I suppose it is possible because CO was a poster, but I think a bet or a check-raise is better than chk/call
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

Check raising the river can put you in a strange spot.

I like leading the river so I can consider folding if he pushes.

This hand is played awkwardly so you're rarely getting credit for a seven here.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

but as played u never fold here right? do you fold the turn?
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

Raise preflop.

Flop and turn are fine, but I'd lead the river and probably call a raise.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

hmmm 3 of the villains at your table are 2p2ers - 2 are shortstacks...

I'm getting the hell off this table.

Why call the turn? - you're getting 5:2 pot odds to draw and have 11(9) outs 9(7) of which might not be clean.

You are up against the straight here about 1 time in 100 I think - as played lead river for ~$4 call a minraise - fold to a real raise.

I don't understand for the life of me why you would want to raise 72s preflop UTG at a FR table [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

Am I the only one who c/r the [censored] out of this river?
If I was villain im deifnitely Vb'ing QJish hands here.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

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I don't understand for the life of me why you would want to raise 72s preflop UTG at a FR table

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LOL.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

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Why call the turn? - you're getting 5:2 pot odds to draw and have 11(9) outs 9(7) of which might not be clean.


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A lot of the time your hand is good here on the turn. Villain did not bet the flop in position, but now raises the turn when a 4 comes. He basically can have 3 types of hand:
1. He was slowplaying something big like a set
2. The 4 hit/helped him
3. He's making a play at the pot now that everyone showed weakness on the flop and everyone except for hero (who the 4 most likely did not hit as an UTG limper) showed weakness on the turn.

If hero did not have the FD on the turn a good case could be made for reraising the turn and picking up the pot a lot of the time. With the FD it would really suck to be put allin though.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: NL25- 72 misclick whats your line

Looks OK. You could also bet-fold the river.

Dunno why people are so keen to play a big pot on the river. His flop check/turn raise/river bet is just about always either a bluff more than a pair, and we loose to anything that beats a pair.
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