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Old 10-03-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

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i read the whole thing like 6 times and i give up....what's the other 50%?

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Krantz:

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Old 10-03-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

Yes! He's is back!

It's been a while and I was seriously considering opening a thread asking for a new post from joyofpoker. Now I don't have to [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

One thing though
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River: ($614) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="blue">Well, that's the worst card in the deck for us. It turned our 2nd nuts into the 3rd nuts. </font>


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Although I see that the 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is a very scary card, I think we can still be glad. What if the 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] fell instead? That would have turned our 2nd nuts into the 44th nuts! What would you have done then if villain put himself to a decision for all his chips?

Another question: say if we hit our 1-outer on the river with the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], the prettiest card in the deck, would you still consider folding to be consistent with your metagame?

Hoping to learn,

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Old 10-03-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

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i read the whole thing like 6 times and i give up....what's the other 50%?

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Krantz:

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I just lol'ed really hard at this too.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:47 PM
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Nice fold. I always get carried away with hands like this and end up loosing money. I being able to fold in spots like this is what what separates the good from the expert player at those levels.

Also, would it ever be correct to just call villains initial pf raise of 8$, since we have position and he`s a 72/10/2. It`s always scary to build a big pot there, and we can control the size of the pot better. Would like to hear your opinion on this.

the clęaner
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

12.5 to 1 pot odds....

It's worth a little pain to call isn't it? If you were concerned about the river card, why raise?
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:40 PM
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12.5 to 1 pot odds....

It's worth a little pain to call isn't it? If you were concerned about the river card, why raise?

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WTF?? Didn't you read the OP? This is an obvious information raise.

OP,

it's possible villain recognized that this was an information raise, maybe he was bluff raising you on the end since he read your weakness.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

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12.5 to 1 pot odds....

It's worth a little pain to call isn't it? If you were concerned about the river card, why raise?

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Not just any raise: a minraise for value, and so that when the reraise came he knew he was beat and just saved money.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:44 PM
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I love you OP. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 50% of folding is discipline

i was actually expecting 88 and was tempted to scroll straight to bottom to see answer. BUT, i stayed focus and read the whole thing without cheating.

amazing ending, finally.!
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