$12turbo: TPWK call on river?

[slimon]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1320
UTG+1: t1295
MP1: t1695
MP2: t1455
CO: t1320
Button: t3525
hero: t1460
BB: t1430

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, Button calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t60)</font>, hero calls t20 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t100)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t120, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets t100</font>, BB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t220)</font>, Button calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t320)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t420, 3 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t120</font>, Button calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t540)</font>, hero calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t660)</font>.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t780, 3 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t440</font>, Button folds, hero calls t440 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1220)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t1660

Does it make a difference if you bet the flop or check/call it? Are these marginal spots where it doesn't matter if you fold or call? Is calling river standard or fold to his semi big bet?

[chuckpalms04]

i don't like betting that flop so heavy, i might bet like t80, then try and make a smallish (1/2-2/3 pot) bet on the turn, then prob check/call river. this strat has worked for me recently when i flop top pair with only a good kicker, because it allows me to keep the pot under control.

[slimon]

What is usually better leading the flop or check/calling? Against a unknown are you almost always going to call if the last person to act is betting the flop? Fold the river if they bet pot or half the pot right?

[RexWoo]

I like leading but I don't put any more chips uninproved.

The pb with c/c is that you increase their bluff frequency but your hand is not good enough to call more than one bet.

As played, leeding chips on TPWK / no draw against 2 opponents is one of the worst thing you can do. Fold the turn and turbofold the river.

[pauliewalnuts]

Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

[sence25]

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Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

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[Jbrochu]

Normally I would check the flop and see what developed.

I fold this turn even with the huge pot odds after getting called in two places on the flop, and then seeing the turn get bet/called.

The river is an easy fold with him betting into two opponents that have put chips in the pot on the flop and turn.

[malnek]

fold turn fold river. you're closing action on turn...tpwk is no good to the river since you always fold to a 1/2 pot or 3/4 pot bet on the river without some read that villain is a complete idiot. leading is ok especially on this relatively dry board as long it isnt more than 3 handed.

[freeucm]

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Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

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