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Old 11-17-2007, 11:15 AM
Craggoo Craggoo is offline
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

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fold preflop



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Far too nitty my friend. Im not waiting for AQ/pp type of hands in this game. The big winners for you are gonna be your suited connector type hands, not the high card/pp hands. Playing tonight, I lost everytime except once with AK (always raising preflop, always betting it hard) in a 12 hour session. AQ/AJ combined for a total of 0 wins. If I played the way you're advocating, I would come out a loser 100% of the time at my casino.

Since this thread seems about done, I threw my 87 face up and said "i cant call you Bob" and he showed QJ to scoop both main and side pots. People were asking me how I could muck that on the end... only response is you obviously havent played with Bob before.
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

I'd fold 87 preflop. If it were suited, I'm definitely calling, though, since suited connectors play well multiway.

Lead flop. You have a double gutshot in a large, limped field. Bet for value.

Turn looks good.

If your read is really this good on the river, then it's a fold. You're getting 11.5:1 and would need to be getting 20:1+ to make this a profitable call when he has the nuts 95% of the time.

I do question whether a read could ever be this good, though. And if there's even just a 3.7% margin of error in your read (i.e., if Bob only has the nuts 91.3% of the time instead of 95% of the time), then it could be a profitable call...
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

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Yes he does bet strong draws

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On the turn OOP into 4 calling stations? That's a sick read to know that he'll do that and never 3bet a set on a non 4straight/3flush board. It also makes him more of a donk than a nit.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

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fold preflop



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Far too nitty my friend. Im not waiting for AQ/pp type of hands in this game. The big winners for you are gonna be your suited connector type hands, not the high card/pp hands. Playing tonight, I lost everytime except once with AK (always raising preflop, always betting it hard) in a 12 hour session. AQ/AJ combined for a total of 0 wins. If I played the way you're advocating, I would come out a loser 100% of the time at my casino.

Since this thread seems about done, I threw my 87 face up and said "i cant call you Bob" and he showed QJ to scoop both main and side pots. People were asking me how I could muck that on the end... only response is you obviously havent played with Bob before.

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rofl

if it was suited, then type '87s', or '87hh' (for hearts). if it was offsuit then fold preflop and its not close.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:15 AM
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Against a random person I don't know i snap call everytime. You have to realize that I play with a lot of the same people on a daily basis so I have a very good idea of how they play. Calling this 3 bet against Bob is spew 100% of the time. He doesnt get out of line ever.

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Since this thread seems about done, I threw my 87 face up and said "i cant call you Bob" and he showed QJ to scoop both main and side pots. People were asking me how I could muck that on the end... only response is you obviously havent played with Bob before.

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If this decision is so easy . . . why did you post this thread?
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

you obviously havent posted with craggoo before
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:26 AM
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you obviously havent posted with craggoo before

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A+
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: $3/$6 B&M face tough river decision

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Against a random person I don't know i snap call everytime. You have to realize that I play with a lot of the same people on a daily basis so I have a very good idea of how they play. Calling this 3 bet against Bob is spew 100% of the time. He doesnt get out of line ever.

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Since this thread seems about done, I threw my 87 face up and said "i cant call you Bob" and he showed QJ to scoop both main and side pots. People were asking me how I could muck that on the end... only response is you obviously havent played with Bob before.

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If this decision is so easy . . . why did you post this thread?

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Maybe next time I'll title the thread : Brag: I read souls
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