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Old 10-16-2007, 11:35 PM
jlp_2908 jlp_2908 is offline
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Default NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

Party Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 10 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

: $9.80
: $34.22
: $9
: $1.80
: $10
Hero (): $11.18
VIIIILIIIIAN: $3.80
: $10.29
: $9.85
: $18.59

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero ()
calls $0.10, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.55</font>, <font color="red"> raises to $1.50</font>, 6 folds, <font color="red">Hero ???

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:47 PM
friedace friedace is offline
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

His raise of almost half his stack is basically putting him all in. You're going to miss the flop the majority of the time, so calling then folding when you miss isn't a great move IMO. I think pushing and maximizing your equity in the pot is best.

.55 + 3.80 = 4.35
It's 3.35 for you to call, so you're getting 4.35:3.35 or 1.3:1. That means you have to be better than 43% against his range for calling to be profitable. You are about 40% against a range of AKo/s, 10+, so if his range is wider than that (maybe AQs, 99), then pushing is profitable.

Hope this helps.

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:56 PM
jlp_2908 jlp_2908 is offline
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

Ok I did go with the push because he had a short stack, thanks for pointing out the math! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Ill continue doin this move. Against a stack where I wouldnt be gettin such equity would a call be more profitable?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

against a shortstack im not folding AKo ever
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

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Ok I did go with the push because he had a short stack, thanks for pointing out the math! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Ill continue doin this move. Against a stack where I wouldnt be gettin such equity would a call be more profitable?

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Personally I don't like calling 3-bets w AK, especially OOP. Since he was so short a push is good. If he was deep I'd consider his range and your image a lot and then decide what to do. I mean if you call a 3-bet from a deeper villain and miss the flop then it sucks, and if the flop is ace-high then you get little action. So IMO a call wouldn't be ideal then either.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:21 AM
zyrrth zyrrth is offline
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

put him all in
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

Definitely putting him all in. If you just flat call and air-ball the flop, you'll have a hard time calling a shove.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: NL 10 - AK vs mid stack, call and see flop or push?

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put him all in

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