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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
I dunno I think its pretty close you need 40.8% to breakeven and versus a pessimistic range of { KK-77, 55, 22, AhQh, AhTh, Ah8h } hero is at 41.41%.
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
I havent read replies but I think checking behind is a monumental mistake.
I think the flop is a fold. AhXh is closer, 9h6h is closer, stuff like that. |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What If he raises to 70k? Do you guys fold, shove, call? I had a lot of problem dealing with big draws deep stacked, when facing resistence. Online you just jam it cause you're always priced in. Here this wasn't the case. [/ QUOTE ] I think you always fold to a raise here. [/ QUOTE ] pretty much always jam if he raises to 70k. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, we're always folding to a jam but always jamming to a raise? Isn't that a giant leak? |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What If he raises to 70k? Do you guys fold, shove, call? I had a lot of problem dealing with big draws deep stacked, when facing resistence. Online you just jam it cause you're always priced in. Here this wasn't the case. [/ QUOTE ] I think you always fold to a raise here. [/ QUOTE ] pretty much always jam if he raises to 70k. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, we're always folding to a jam but always jamming to a raise? Isn't that a giant leak? [/ QUOTE ] no it is not. |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
fold; same thing others said - nut fd is too likely, and even if not your pair outs are tainted. I think I call with the nfd.
And definitely jam if he makes a normal raise. |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
When you told me this hand you said you had just over 200k when you started the hand. Obviously having 270k at the beginning makes a huge difference. I think having 210k or so at the beginning of the hand makes it a pretty easy call. In the new situation, yeah, you have to fold. In that situation, I think the situation where you have outs regardless of what he has would make it a call because random old nits sometimes show up here with T7o for some reason.
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
I usually check flop with stacks this big as well, as played fold.
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
pretty good information in this thread!
i prob bet less on the flop bc of stacks- 20'll do it! |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
I agree with everything that every good player in this thread has said.
Flop bet is elementary. Fold to his shove. Shove if he makes a normal raise Call if we have the NFD or a pair and a draw. |
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Re: Is this an instacall for you? (WSOP ME big draw)
Hey gobbo. I said I had a bit over 200k after he shoved. I apologize if I misinformed you.
btw, the guy showed me the As, as I said. Do you guys think that AA is the most likely holding for him? Ship, really? I actually bet less than I usually do in this spot (51k in the pot on the flop) so I'll have more FE if he raises and I jam. You bet even less than 1/2 pot? |
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