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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
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anyway i chose that betsizing because i thought villain either had a T, and would call, or didnt and would fold. and i thought he didnt have a T more often than he did. i was trying to bet the minimum to maximize EV, but an amount that would not get looked up "just out of curiosity". [/ QUOTE ] yeah, those are the exact things i would be thinking about with betsize also, i just think 30-35 is more profitable, esp cuz it lets you value bet thinly for medium bets later. |
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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
yeah you look like u want a call.... i doubt you ever vb this ammount
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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
oh god please tell me you guys are talking about balancing.
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34 looks more like value and less like you have nothing, just in case villain is thinking a little. also, 20 isnt going to fold out [censored] like 8x [/ QUOTE ]Villain runs 50/15/.6, we can't assume he thinks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Villain won't notice the difference between a "this-will-fold-out-missed-draws-bet" and a VB. The only thing $34 accomplishes over a $20 bet is that villain probably folds 8x or random pairs, but those hand combinations only make up for a small % of villains range here imo. |
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oh god please tell me you guys are talking about balancing. [/ QUOTE ] LOL - yeah.... I didnt actually look at his stats. I would NEVER try and bluff this guy. Especially for like 1/3 pot on the river. It's ok to give upo sometimes. Also, dont bet the turn imo. |
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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet.
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oops, was supposed to be aren't, not are
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Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet. [/ QUOTE ] Totally disagree. Dont put bad money in just to win back money put in with a bad decision. |
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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
Turnbet is marginal..
On the river I think he is calling with every hand he called the turn with except for missed draws..so in that sense, I liek your betsizing. I'm not sure if he has a missed draw often enough though. |
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Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff
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[ QUOTE ] Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet. [/ QUOTE ] Totally disagree. Dont put bad money in just to win back money put in with a bad decision. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you should make a -EV decision on the river just because of a -EV turn. What I'm thinking is that the turn bet is -EV against draws with your hand. But the turn/river combo is +EV against draws. So I would only bet turn, if I was planning on betting river on a blank. Though maybe this card isn't enough of a blank. |
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