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Old 11-16-2007, 07:53 AM
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anyway i chose that betsizing because i thought villain either had a T, and would call, or didnt and would fold. and i thought he didnt have a T more often than he did.
i was trying to bet the minimum to maximize EV, but an amount that would not get looked up "just out of curiosity".

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yeah, those are the exact things i would be thinking about with betsize also, i just think 30-35 is more profitable, esp cuz it lets you value bet thinly for medium bets later.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:59 AM
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yeah you look like u want a call.... i doubt you ever vb this ammount
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:02 AM
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oh god please tell me you guys are talking about balancing.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:04 AM
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34 looks more like value and less like you have nothing, just in case villain is thinking a little. also, 20 isnt going to fold out [censored] like 8x

[/ QUOTE ]Villain runs 50/15/.6, we can't assume he thinks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Villain won't notice the difference between a "this-will-fold-out-missed-draws-bet" and a VB.

The only thing $34 accomplishes over a $20 bet is that villain probably folds 8x or random pairs, but those hand combinations only make up for a small % of villains range here imo.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:05 AM
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oh god please tell me you guys are talking about balancing.

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LOL - yeah.... I didnt actually look at his stats. I would NEVER try and bluff this guy. Especially for like 1/3 pot on the river. It's ok to give upo sometimes.

Also, dont bet the turn imo.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:18 AM
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Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:19 AM
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oops, was supposed to be aren't, not are
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:38 AM
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Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet.

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Totally disagree. Dont put bad money in just to win back money put in with a bad decision.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:41 AM
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Turnbet is marginal..

On the river I think he is calling with every hand he called the turn with except for missed draws..so in that sense, I liek your betsizing. I'm not sure if he has a missed draw often enough though.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:17 AM
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Turn bet is probably bad against this player. River is borderline but you're probably forced to do it to make up for the turn bet.

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Totally disagree. Dont put bad money in just to win back money put in with a bad decision.

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I don't think you should make a -EV decision on the river just because of a -EV turn.

What I'm thinking is that the turn bet is -EV against draws with your hand. But the turn/river combo is +EV against draws. So I would only bet turn, if I was planning on betting river on a blank. Though maybe this card isn't enough of a blank.
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