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Old 11-16-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

<font color="blue"> villain is a loosestationdonk. hes runs 50/15/.6 with WTSD of 15%
plays ABC donkish postflop. hasnt showndown any bluffs, plays draws passive, bets or ch/r monsters etc.

i had been aggro TAGish but villain prob didnt have a clue</font>


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $70.15
Hero (BTN): $103.55
SB: $120.30
BB: $116.55
UTG: $122.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7


Turn: ($23) A (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls $16

River: ($55) T (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

Now pray that he doesn't call this riverbet with some random pair or his missed his KhQh, just to see what you had.

But I think this is fine, all draws missed and the chance that he's got a T decreases with this rivercard.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

Don't bluff calling stations. This bet only works if he is on a busted draw.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

did you say weaksauce because i used it in my thread earlier? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

as to your hand this is 100x better if you bet like 34 IMO

edit: but yeah, dont bluff this calling station unless you think he has a whiffed FD most of the time.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

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as to your hand this is 100x better if you bet like 34 IMO

[/ QUOTE ]Why? He 'should' fold all his missed draws anyway and hero saves hisself 14BB in case villain holds a T or some random A.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

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did you say weaksauce because i used it in my thread earlier? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]



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Old 11-16-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

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as to your hand this is 100x better if you bet like 34 IMO

[/ QUOTE ]Why? He 'should' fold all his missed draws anyway and hero saves hisself 14BB in case villain holds a T or some random A.

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34 looks more like value and less like you have nothing, just in case villain is thinking a little. also, 20 isnt going to fold out [censored] like 8x
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

anyway i chose that betsizing because i thought villain either had a T, and would call, or didnt and would fold. and i thought he didnt have a T more often than he did. 8's, 22-99 might not even call because even donks realize i likely have an Ace here
i was trying to bet the minimum to maximize EV, but an amount that would not get looked up "just out of curiosity".
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

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Now pray that he doesn't call this riverbet with some random pair or his missed his KhQh, just to see what you had.


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i like how you even already answered your last question in your first post of the thread
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: LOL i make a weak sauce river bluff

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as to your hand this is 100x better if you bet like 34 IMO

[/ QUOTE ]Why? He 'should' fold all his missed draws anyway and hero saves hisself 14BB in case villain holds a T or some random A.

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Im with Bramsterdam on this one. Were not expecting him to fold a pair. Were expecting him to fold a missed draw which he will IMO to the 20$ bet.

And this guy is not gonna bluff raise us.
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