Ummm...wtf? TPGK facing open shove.

[Sean Fraley]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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This is like AK always

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I admit that I just moved up from 50NL last week, but I've seen this at least 10 times since I arrived in SSNL and it has been a hand that beat 2nd pair only once.

[jackdaniel]

thats a fold from me,
i like to gamble but not on this side... i better be on the nutdraw then drawing dead

[pineapple888]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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This is like AK always

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I admit that I just moved up from 50NL last week, but I've seen this at least 10 times since I arrived in SSNL and it has been a hand that beat 2nd pair only once.

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Wow, nice table selection I guess.

Honestly, calling is probably about break-even over time. The problem is how thin you are drawing when you are behind.

[bilbo-san]

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Hero has invested $3 into this pot with a marginal hands. Hero has to pay $65.50 to find out if his hand is good. Pot size is $7.50 - for all those who call can you see why this is wrong?

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Explain why the pot size is $7.50. I count $73.

Then explain why the [censored] the fact that "so far you've invested $3" is relevant. Equity is equity, and sunk costs don't matter. You'd make a poor economist. Both monetarily and qualitatively.

[bilbo-san]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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This is like AK always

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I admit that I just moved up from 50NL last week, but I've seen this at least 10 times since I arrived in SSNL and it has been a hand that beat 2nd pair only once.

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Wow, nice table selection I guess.

Honestly, calling is probably about break-even over time. The problem is how thin you are drawing when you are behind.

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How is that a problem?

I call and 5 times out of ten he's drawing to 2 outs, and I have a 2 out redraw. Then 4 more times he's drawing to 7-9 outs.

I think that makes up for the one time that I am drawing to 2-3 outs.

Oh, and WTF does "nice table selection" mean.

How often do you see someone at a bad table (i.e. table full of good players) do this?

You're pretending that most players who think rationally shove $65 into $7.50 all the time, and he must have practiced "good table selection" to find the few donks who IRRATIONALLY shove $65 into $7.50. What...the...[censored]...?

[loosbastard]

Once again bilbo wins this thread. I actually doctored the HH a little because I snap-called in the real hand...but it got me thinking about wtf I would have done w/ AQ/AJ in this spot.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $92.20
BB: $56
UTG: $68.50
Hero (CO): $352.40
BTN: $127.15

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $65.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $65.50

Turn: ($138.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($138.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $138.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
UTG showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Sevens and Threes) and LOST (-$68.50 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Threes) and WON $136.50 (+$68 NET)

[JFsports]

this is an instacall. I've seen uberfish take this line so often after a scare card hits.
eg min 3bet preflop w AA then massively overbet the flop (preflop: i have the nuts i need to trap him hohoho; postflop: uh oh)
minraise set on a 2 flush board then overbet when the flush hits
the horse has long since left the stable little fishies

[pineapple888]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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This is like AK always

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I admit that I just moved up from 50NL last week, but I've seen this at least 10 times since I arrived in SSNL and it has been a hand that beat 2nd pair only once.

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Wow, nice table selection I guess.

Honestly, calling is probably about break-even over time. The problem is how thin you are drawing when you are behind.

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How is that a problem?

I call and 5 times out of ten he's drawing to 2 outs, and I have a 2 out redraw. Then 4 more times he's drawing to 7-9 outs.

I think that makes up for the one time that I am drawing to 2-3 outs.

Oh, and WTF does "nice table selection" mean.

How often do you see someone at a bad table (i.e. table full of good players) do this?

You're pretending that most players who think rationally shove $65 into $7.50 all the time, and he must have practiced "good table selection" to find the few donks who IRRATIONALLY shove $65 into $7.50. What...the...[censored]...?

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Were you born a d-bag, or do you work at it? Just wondering.

This is a draw a whole bunch of the time we aren't crushed. Do the math, idiot.

Meanwhile, I am real sick of you.

Plonk.

[sh58]

i'd call this every time

[sh58]

this is a line alot of terrible players will take with KK-TT.

oh no, my monster is ruined, i'm closing my eyes and shoving and hoping for the best