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Old 10-22-2007, 09:21 AM
loosbastard loosbastard is offline
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Default Turning TP into a bluff

Villain is TAGish and seems relatively competent post-flop. I'm playing solid 20/17ish. Once he calls turn, I know for sure I have practically zero showdown value here.

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Hero (UTG): $104
MP: $148
CO: $153.15
BTN: $114.75
SB: $112.85
BB: $100

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, MP folds, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, CO calls $7

Turn: ($22.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, CO calls $18

River: ($58.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $48</font>
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into a bluff

pf: dont raise JTs utg
flop: fine
turn: smaller bet does the same job
river: spewy. you are oop with a marginal hand. let him have it. there are better spots.

this is why we dont play marginal hands oop
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into a bluff

pf: fine
flop:fine
turn: fine

I dont like the river, if you think you have zero showdown value when he calls turn, he always has Tx/2 pair/set type of hands, and I dont see any of these folding, except TQ and TJ maybe. Ill c/f river with your read
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into a bluff

What is the purpose of our river bet? If it's to fold out better hands, only 2hands that I can see folding are JJ or QTs (those 2hands are not very likely given the villain's stats)
we repped at least AT by double barreling on turn but he still comes along to the river. I would check hoping to get a free SD or just c/f.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:54 AM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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pre fine
flop fine
turn I might c/c to keep his range more wide if indeed you think you are beat after he calls flop
river is a c/f imho mostly but if you've been double barreling lots and not triple barreling I think you can fire a third here to rep AK and monsters
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Turning TP into a bluff

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Once he calls turn, I know for sure I have practically zero showdown value here.

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Then why are we betting? draws are unlikely. if your read is right, c/c or c/f seems like a better line depending on how floaty he is.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:22 AM
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Once he calls turn, I know for sure I have practically zero showdown value here.


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So the turn was also a bluff?
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:36 AM
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if you think you have zero showdown value if he calls your turn, then check the turn
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:53 AM
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if you think you have zero showdown value if he calls your turn, then check the turn

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this is exactly what i was gonna say.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:55 AM
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if you think you have zero showdown value if he calls your turn, then check the turn

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i like this suggestion. give reasons please.
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