Hero wants to bluff Part 2

[ajmargarine]

Insignificant sample on villain, so unknown. Any ideas for this hand? As soon as he bet, my instinct said he doesn't have a flush, but has something that beats me at the moment. Of course, that could be way wrong, who knows. Comments welcome.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $274.80
CO: $34.55
Hero (BTN): $400.10
SB: $192
BB: $388.80

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12

Turn: ($40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $30</font>...

[Imrahil]

I just don't think villain will ever fold a Q here so I don't really like raising.

[Isura]

I wouldn't raise here. He probably has pair + FD. If you want to take it away, call and bomb a lot of rivers

[TheChad]

that's a little tough AJ.
I don't like raising as he'd prob call and watch you miss. check, check, he wins. I think I peel another card and see where it goes or just fold. We really don't have a ton invested, so we can get away if need.

yeah, if you feel you'll have FE on the river if you miss, I call here and nail the river like Paris Hilton.

[fees]

looks like a flush to me

[ajmargarine]

OK, I folded the OP hand. I wanted to do something at first instinct but just let it go after pondering it for a bit. Looks like that was the right plan. So, here's another hand along the same theme that I just played:

Hero wants to bluff Hand #2

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $186.60
CO: $205.95
Hero (BTN): $204.10
SB: $182.05
BB: $337.55
UTG: $200

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $20</font>, Hero wants to shove-ola.

[sh58]

if you have a feeling, then go for it.

what do you mean insignificant, even 5 hands can provide some clue.

i like not folding the turn here. i think raising and calling are both acceptable. i have a sneaky suspicion that he will keep firing if you flat call, and raising the river is pretty sick.

[sh58]

2nd hands, is this same villain, any reads this time.

raising is ok here, i don't know why you would shove though. 70$ is enough to get him off a weak hand or bluff

[Claunchy]

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2nd hands, is this same villain, any reads this time.

raising is ok here, i don't know why you would shove though. 70$ is enough to get him off a weak hand or bluff

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Well, it's not like we can raise/fold with our draw anyway, but I still like a slightly smaller raise because it looks more legit imo. But if you would shove here with a real hand then sure.