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Old 10-18-2007, 02:13 PM
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more on the flop and bet the turn. Other then that it's fine.

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Old 10-18-2007, 02:26 PM
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more on the flop and bet the turn. Other then that it's fine.

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How much FE do you estimate we have on the turn?
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:31 PM
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more on the flop and bet the turn. Other then that it's fine.

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Why more on the flop? Why bet the turn?
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:33 PM
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I'm really confused as to why people think they have to have 'control' of a hand. Nobody likes having position in a smaller pot?

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my thoughts exactly. i don't see what is horrible about calling here preflop, especially for a slightly smaller open
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:38 PM
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Without reads you should generally fold preflop.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:39 PM
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Cuz he folds a ton of Q,JJ,TT, gutshot type hands on turn and you gots outs if called.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:39 PM
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more on the flop and bet the turn. Other then that it's fine.


[/ QUOTE ] Why more on the flop? Why bet the turn?

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I guess the flop bet size isn't critical but I would just bet more here with a draw because I would also bet more with a made hand. Bet the turn b/c it folds out a decent portion of villains range that beats us such as underpairs, KQ, and villain is rarely strong enough to check raise this turn.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:47 PM
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more on the flop and bet the turn. Other then that it's fine.

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Why more on the flop? Why bet the turn?

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I think that you're balancing here between maximising FE and building a pot to get value in those rare instances when he doesn't go away and you hit.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:51 PM
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more on the flop cuz I can't imagine you bet 1/2 pot usually, shrug on turn. Cuz of your bet on the flop, I'd 1/2 the turn too. Flip a coin though. And pre is le fine.
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Old 10-18-2007, 02:53 PM
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this is fine
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