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Old 09-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $90.30
CO: $109.80
Button: $29.80
SB: $56.35
Hero: $55.45

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $25</font>, Hero...?

Villain has been the table for 76 hands and runs 39/13/1.8. He built his stack by calling a raise with 44 IP then getting it AI set vs 2pair. However he lost a pot by calling down with 99 against AA on board T743J...

Thoughts on TURN play? Then RIVER please? 1 word answers obv not allowed. 2 words are fine though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

Turn is fine, I believe CO has Q 10, button has KQ or something. You make your hand on the river though, why check?

I'd value bet this hand, and expect to be called with Q 10.

(unless you're going for a river c/r if you are SURE CO will bet if you check, and most likely call your raise, in which case I don't mind this play)

In this situation, I suppose I'd raise. The only legit hand that beats you is Kdxd.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

on turn your hand looks like a flush draw.
I'd bet like 15$ on river, unless he is super agerssive and you know it he will just check behind tons on river and your calls on turn would be in vain):

as played i c/r all in on river
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

I don't see the CO putting in a 3rd raise on the turn with anything other than QT (including QTd) or KQd.

I honestly don't know what I do here, facing this bet I probably call 50% fold 50%

btw the pot button on FTP would bet 25 into this 23 pot which is after rake i think
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

What sightless said, but I'd bet a bit more on the river since your villain seems to really dislike folding. I think I'd lead for $18-$20 here.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

So he wouldn't do this with Kxs?
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

He might, but it seems unlikely to me that it's a big enough part of his range that it changes our river play.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

Right, he MIGHT, but on the turn when the button makes a decent size raise, he is willing to come over that raise, IMO much more often than not he does this a range &gt; KQ
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

Yeah. I pushed. He had K8s. His play and stats generally would suggest Q10 though and make calling turn bets profitable yeah?

Leading river is better way to play it due to his low AF.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - J6s Flushing facing river overbet...

def profitable turn call if he turned nuts. I guess he was trying to river bluff a better K? weeee hawwwww
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