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#12
06-08-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
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He's going to play a ton of trash the same way. In fact, all trash. [/ QUOTE ] So your range for him at this point is........ATC? 
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#14
06-08-2007, 07:59 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
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Include this stat for your thinking, Hero is Running 24.7/13.8/2.5 what hands do we put the villain on here??? [/ QUOTE ] Sets/straight/2 pair/overpair/44/55/air. Obviously crushed by sets, straight, 2 pair. Sets and straight (45s) make sense for all streets. Any 2 pair hand is a pretty poor pf call from him so less likely. The only overpair we beat is 77. The 44/55 has a gutshot but I doubt he's going pot/pot with that. Air is possible but why would he? OP, what was your range for him at this point?
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#15
06-08-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
I had seen him try and take pots away when the flop looked like it had not connected with the PFR, villain was fairly aggressive. Put him on small PP/SC/2pair with some bluff frequency. Villain was mixing it up at the table and had shown several bluffs
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#16
06-08-2007, 11:25 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
SB: $9.30 BB: $20.60 UTG: $19.35 <font color="black">Hero (MP): $13.70</font> CO: $7.60 BTN: $4.60 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($2.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $2.25</font>, Hero calls $2.25 <font color="black">River:</font> ($6.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $5.00</font>, Hero?? Well it looks like I might have hit Gin here, but still a pretty scary board for the villain the bet. What is the hero's action??
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#18
06-08-2007, 11:36 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
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We're never folding here, so the best thing to do is figure out what the best thing to do for the turn and maybe river is. Raise him off his hand now and represent the ace, orj ust call? I simply call because people take their bluffs too far at this level or simply overvalue their hand. He may have actually hit the ace, too, so raising is a double-edged sword of not getting enough value and maybe running into a wall. [/ QUOTE ] You're never folding here? Just how much value do you put on pocket 8s? There's a lot of room for a read here. if opponent is complete idiot this might be a call. Against a lot of players, this is a lot of strength and will often beat 1 pair. To say you'll never fold here is crazy.
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#20
06-08-2007, 11:44 PM
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Re: Overpair to the board, Lets Play along
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You're never folding here? Just how much value do you put on pocket 8s? There's a lot of room for a read here. if opponent is complete idiot this might be a call. Against a lot of players, this is a lot of strength and will often beat 1 pair. To say you'll never fold here is crazy. [/ QUOTE ] The flop likely didn't hit him. He's re-raising overpairs / big Aces / some broadway PF. The ace easily could've hit him, but odds are more likely it didn't. We're likely looking at a small overpair, with only about 99 beating us, a mini two pair, or trash like 2nd pair. Now if he potted the river, obviously we fold. IME though this is not a line a strong hand like KK or 23 takes.
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