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#1
06-08-2006, 12:23 PM
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Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
I have basically just started this session. I have a suspicion that the villain is bad, but I can't remember why I think that and haven't really seen him get out of line yet. It could be that I have notes on him at another computer I've been playing on. Anyway, I got very excited because I had 3 of a kind on the flop and top kicker. Also, I float a lot of flops, but on the turn, what kind of hands do I beat? How else should I play this hand?
Online 10 handed MP2 raises to 45 (730), I (cover) call on the button with AK (suits irrelevant). I definitely mix up calling and reraising preflop with AK. Heads up to the flop. Flop: K K 4 rainbow Pot: 105 MP2 bets 125 (yeah, that was weird), I call. Turn: Q Pot: 365 MP2 checks, I bet 300, he pushes for 220 more, I scratch my head about how I played this hand and call. Comments appreciated. I guess my main question is between betting and checking the turn. 
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#5
06-08-2006, 02:44 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
I like to get my money in when I'm ahead....
K4 & 44 are the only hands that are beating us....Until the Q lands.. then its KQ/QQ/44 that are beating us... I would guess that villain had QQ and sucked out on turn...if thats the case then there is no escape unless a blank turn hits... An overbet of the pot on the flop leads me to believe villain doesn't have a K, but AA or QQ, possibly the other AK...or even KQ... However, even being really bad I can't imagine him raising KQ this much preflop....this means that its a big hand - AA/AK/QQ.... AA doesn't push turn IMO...Especially not check push...he led the flop and then check-raised turn AI... What hands do that unless villain is a complete fruitcake !
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#6
06-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
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An overbet of the pot on the flop leads me to believe villain doesn't have a K, but AA or QQ, possibly the other AK...or even KQ... [/ QUOTE ] Hence, raising the flop sucks, unless you guys have history. Are you seriously this worried about 3 outers?
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#7
06-08-2006, 03:01 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
I'm not worried about 3-outers, but he has said he remembers villain and OP said that he floats a lot of flops...So he could easily be representing a K....
Villain may remember him...he said he has notes on him on another computer....So there is history... I post the hands that I had difficult decisions with... This isn't a difficult hand... OP made it difficult... Vava Edited to add : what hand cold calls a raise PF, and a flop overbet and then bets on the turn when checked to him...? Op's hand is sooooo transparent and villian still pushes... My final guess is that villain had AK or QQ that turned goot ! Or that this is a reverse post....and he had QQ and turned the FH
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#8
06-08-2006, 03:09 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
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he has said he remembers villain and that he floats a lot of flops...So he could easily be representing a K.... [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this comment at all. [ QUOTE ] Villain may remember him...he said he has notes on him on another computer....So there is history... [/ QUOTE ] The history would likely make "floating" the best play, since this is a textbook flop to float on. [ QUOTE ] I post the hands that I had difficult decisions with... This isn't a difficult hand... OP made it difficult... [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop sure would have made it easy, but it also blows out everybody except for Kx, unless they have some history that hero bluffs in spots like this. He is facing an OVERBET on this board. This is usually either a) A strong K/44 b) A weakish hand, trying to find out where it's at. (AA/QQ/etc). c) A total bluff. I would weight it more toward the latter two, without a bit of a read. Since hero has a history of floating, turn bet is fine and good, and you should call the raise, getting sweet pot odds. He'll have the other AK or KJ/Kx often enough, and you have odds to improve against QQ. On this, particular turn card, though, I would consider a check, although it's probably close.
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#9
06-08-2006, 03:10 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
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what hand cold calls a raise PF, and a flop overbet and then bets on the turn when checked to him...? Op's hand is sooooo transparent and villian still pushes... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I float a lot of flops [/ QUOTE ]
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#10
06-08-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: Three Cards That Match 5/10 NL
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[ QUOTE ] what hand cold calls a raise PF, and a flop overbet and then bets on the turn when checked to him...? Op's hand is sooooo transparent and villian still pushes... [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I float a lot of flops [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Ok, put yourself in villains shoes... What would you need to have to raise PF 10 handed to $45. Then overbet a KK4 Board and check push a Q turn ? If villain had AA then OP played brillaint...if villain has any of the other hands that he could have possibly opened up with up PF for that sort of raise then OP is toast ! This is AK/KQ/QQ all day everyday ! I understand what you are saying about my previous post...I'm trying to do several things at once and did not proof read the original bit.... However, my point was hero cold called PF and on the flop and then bet turn when checked to him.... I think he is bluffing less <10% which means he is not floating... Villain must have some hand....whether a grossly played AA that has no idea where it is or a hand that beats Hero... Vava
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