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Old 11-23-2007, 11:17 PM
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FWIW:

My raw score on the only Putnam I wrote was in the 70s.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Average SMP IQ.

pooch,

That's pretty hot. I'm decent at math, but realized once I got to college that I a) don't like it that much and b) am not as much a phenom as I thought.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: Average SMP IQ.

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FWIW:

My raw score on the only Putnam I wrote was in the 70s.

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wow. what year was this? fwiw my combined raw scores from the last two years on the putnam is in the 70s.

re the topic of the thread: I haven't had my IQ tested since I was 5 or 6 and I scored in the 150s then.

also despite the fact that I disagree with a lot of things that sklansky writes I'd be kind of shocked if his IQ wasn't > 150.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:35 AM
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Im eight and a half inches.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:40 PM
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Two IQs I'd like to know:

Borodog: I'd put him at mid 130s.
Sklansky: Around the same.

Thoughts?

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For the record, I have always tested at 135-140 on various internet tests (which I admit I find enjoyable).

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It's worth noting that a lot of Internet tests cap at 130-140.

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Really? Had no idea. How do you know this?

Edit: This would explain a lot. When you get all of the questions correct, I had assumed that your score comes down to timing, i.e. your score goes up the less time it takes you to complete the test. I think that is probably true, but some of those tests I basically aced in what I would consider to be fairly short order, and still scored 140.

I would still like to know the source for this, as I wouldn't want you to artificially inflate my ego any more than it already is. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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Old 11-24-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Average SMP IQ.

I wrote the Putnam in a year when the problems were easier
than usual (>10 years ago) and regretted not "studying for
it" (amazingly knew hardly any abstract algebra!) and had a
sick feeling after all of it, since it was clear that I
couldn't answer some of the problems. Nowadays, Putnam
problems on average seem much harder (but that's likely
because I'm not as sharp!). If anyone scores above 30
nowadays, that should be considered a decent accomplishment.
I was completely stunned to learn that many students score
ZERO (!) on the Putnam ( recently discovered this).

There was only one other exam that made me feel this way:
an analysis midterm that had six very difficult problems, of
which we could choose three to solve. The professor stated
to us, "Just try to do ONE WELL". Needless to say, after
that midterm, our "big class" of almost twenty eventually
dropped to about ten (okay, maybe the prof didn't think
some students belonged!). In any case, to be absolutely
honest, this was the very first exam in which there was no
problem I could even think of solving! Then, I couldn't
completely solve more than one problem on that midterm
(despite making some attempts on all six), the papers were
marked (my paper received four "checkmarks") but the exam
didn't count towards our grade (it became a "take-home"
exam). Although I felt totally sick, I couldn't imagine
how most of my classmates felt! And worst of all: I
thought I had prepared extremely well before the midterm!

Also, FWIW, I scored 41/48 on Ron Hoeflin's IQ test, which
is more difficult to achieve. Again, it doesn't really mean
very much in the "grand scheme", but could explain why my
perception is often skewed [ such as a "legitimate" Ph.D.
in mathematics is a lot easier to obtain than previously
thought!].
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Average SMP IQ.

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Im eight and a half inches.

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Around.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:22 PM
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Im eight and a half inches.

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Around.

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Holy [censored].
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:37 PM
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FWIW, the test that I am most proud of was the physics Ph.D. qualifying exam. 24 hours of testing over 5 days (MWF, two 4 hour sessions each day, mornings were undergrad level, afternoons were graduate level, classical mechanics, quantum, and E&M one day each). Each test was composed of 6 questions, of which you could omit one.

Other people began studying for the quals 3 months or more out. I started 3 weeks out, one week per subject. While it was not officially disclosed what your exact score was beyond pass or fail for each of the 3 sections, I was told unofficially by my advisor (after the faculty retreat where the senior faculty collectively grades the quals) that I "blew it out of the water."

That meant more to me than any other test score, and even if I had an official IQ score that was particularly high, I would still be more proud of the quals.

Since I took them the quals in my department have been significantly "dumbed down", in order to compete with other schools that had much easier quals, and because younger research faculty were frustrated that their minions were "wasting" their time preparing to take and retake the quals rather than slaving in their labs for them. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I am extremely lucky that, while it was a "core" class, there was no statistical mechanics section on the quals. By far my weakest subject of any I took in physics. Everything else came naturally to me, but stat mech was always completely alien to the way that I think. When I review it now, it makes much more sense, but at the time I absolutely hated it. This might have had something to do with my professor at the time, but I really think it was a fundamental disconnect between me and the material.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Average SMP IQ.

i think borodog has this figured out the best, IQ tests don't test anything finite, i think it is a far greater accomplishment to do well on a test that you have prepared greatly for and worked for than for some arbitrary measurement of an unknown quality.
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