Ummm...wtf? TPGK facing open shove.

[sh58]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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i call and make a note. how can you fold and make a note. the note won't say very much

[loosbastard]

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i'd call this every time

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So how far down (kicker wise) do you guys call this?

[JFsports]

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this is a line alot of terrible players will take with KK-TT.

oh no, my monster is ruined, i'm closing my eyes and shoving and hoping for the best

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QFT


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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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i call and make a note. how can you fold and make a note. the note won't say very much

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[rand]

i call this and expect to see a pissed off PP alot of the time
i didnt read the entire thread but we only have to be good 50% of the time (actually a little less) because its basically 1:1 on our money...which means 1 part out of 2...1/2 = 50%

[thac]

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I'd call because it looks more bluffy than valuebetting. I think you'll see KQs and sometimes like 66-77 that are pissed off about the ace.

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Haha, winner!

[sh58]

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i'd call this every time

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So how far down (kicker wise) do you guys call this?

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i put in a pretty conservative stove, even excluding his actual hand and including a few 3's as well

116,820 games 0.062 secs 1,884,193 games/sec

Board: 3c 3s As
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.442% 48.79% 13.65% 57000 15944.50 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 37.558% 23.91% 13.65% 27931 15944.50 { TT+, A4s+, A2s, KsQs, KsJs, QsJs, JsTs, 6s5s, 5s4s, 53s, 43s, A4o+, A2o }

so according to this range, AJ is an easy call

with the same range, AT has 58% equity and A9 has 55% equity

my gut was mostly call A9+ and mostly fold A8- because A9+ are above average aces, and the stove thinks so too.

there is a case for calling with any ace here as well, as an ace isn't a large part of his range, i would estimate...

underpair 50%
trips 1%
Ax 29%
flushdraw 20%

[loosbastard]

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Haha, winner!

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Something tells me you saw when I posted this in another thread...if not, you read souls obv.

[blah-blah-blah]

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Wow, lotsa gamboolers. I fold and make a note.

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i call and make a note. how can you fold and make a note. the note won't say very much

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lol exactly what i was gonna say. i really wanna hear the response to this.