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Old 09-08-2007, 11:51 PM
DrMagic DrMagic is offline
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Default 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

400 eff stacks, villain is a good tricky tag, capable of 3 barelling I would say, but I've never seen him do this before. He's playing 22/19/4 or so this session.
I've been quite tight this session, quite unimaginative, might image would be that of a straightforward tag, like 22/17/2ish

Folded to villain in SB, he makes it 12 to play I call

Flop Ah Th 6s

He bets 20, I call

Turn Tc

He bets 46, I call

River 3d

He overbet shoves for 320

So whats the min you call with here? And is there much difference between having say AK or T9 here?
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

Bump!
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

I dont like this question because I wouldnt play a lot of my 'min call hands' this way.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

yeah agreed. it's too dynamic. you make a fair point that T9 and AK are nearly the same hand, but this just illustrates the fact that it's read and specific opponent based, ie you should either be calling with most aces or you should be folding any non boat.

if you want an in a vacuum answer with no reason to suspect he is terrible or in a weird mood, then probably 66 or maybe KT/QT. really he should never do this without a ten or much more likely AA/AT/66, but then again you said he was tricky and it depends how you play - if he knows you will always raise before the river with a ten or better and he knows you will fold an ace on the river, then obviously he should do this with any two cards. basically this can't be answered in a thread because you need a read on his motives.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

Yeah fair points. I guess he would expect me to raise a ten on the turn so my most likely hand to him is a medium ace or something.
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

theres no hand i'd play this way which could the river.

also as emo said its way too player dependent rather than purely stat based. I am from the CR camp and would fold most non boat hands the first time, and call the second :-D
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Blind on blind whats the min you call with here?

OK this was really just a quick check cos I was the villain here obv and I thought a shove here was never getting called, I didn't see him ever having a hand that could play this way that would call me here. I didn't expect him to have a T very often either. I thought his most likely hand is a weakish ace, one that would prob call a normal bet and almost never an overbet shove. Anyway he had T9 and timed down and called. [censored] station
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