76s, Two Pair River Decision

[bobhalford]

Online 4/8 game, pretty good game

Hero is in the BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG (loose passive) calls, folded to SB (decent player though a bit loose) who completes, Hero checks

Flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets, Hero raises, UTG cold calls, SB calls

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Checked to Hero who bets, both players call

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, Hero?

[secretprankster]

Just curious - where are you playing 4/8?

[yourface]

I think that the flop should be a fold. the pot is tiny and your hand is weak, plus as you noticed your 2pair outs set up a huge redraw.

I think you can c/f the river with a LP behind you. a bet would not be for value

[NinaWilliams]

Id fold the flop aswell. The river looks like a b/f because sb has 8x very often and UTG can have a lot of stuff too. Its thin, but I think theres value in a bet.

[detruncate]

Flop is meh. Weakish hand + tainted outs in a small pot with a loose passive behind you. I usually find a fold.

Against just UTG on the river this is an easy b/f. Against the other cat too it seems pretty slim at best. We're pretty much hoping that SB's on A8(maybe K/Q8) or JT without hearts -- other Ax hands that called the turn probably picked up a flush draw, and I can't think of anything else that plays this way that didn't get there.

I'd just check intending to fold, though I don't hate a b/f since we probably get some value vs UTG's range to help offset the times that SB gets in a c/r. We should get a pretty honest reaction on a board this scary.

[mvoss]

The flop is a fold for me, you have 2nd pair in a very small pot on a somewhat drawy board.

I can check/fold the river, I don't think the LP will bet anything you beat on a board this scary.

[Municipal Hare]

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I think that the flop should be a fold. the pot is tiny and your hand is weak, plus as you noticed your 2pair outs set up a huge redraw.

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Solid advice.

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I think you can c/f the river with a LP behind you. a bet would not be for value

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Hmm. I think the check in front of you combined with the passive player behind makes the river tantalizingly close to a bet-fold. It kinda hinges on how much the range of pairs they'll call with tightens once the board OESDs. Neither will raise with less than what you have.

[sharpie]

I'd bet the river, the decent player should donk a straight here.