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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
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He can easily have the straight with Kd [/ QUOTE ] Seriously doubt this dude is in there preflop with KTo. I see people call with AQo/AJo there though since there was an UTG raise, but def not all the time. |
#22
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
You were running bad at the time.
That is the only possible explanation for folding this turn. He has a set here more often than a better flush. Even if he does have a better flush you still have outs. This is madness I tell thee. |
#23
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
I don't think this fold is as bad as everyone seems to be suggesting. Villain is shoving the turn in a huge 3-way pot over a raise and a cold call. That's a pretty damn strong line. It sucks to put this much money in and then fold, and this hand definitely isn't clear cut, but it's not as heinous as people are making out.
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#24
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
It's not heinous. It's just not right, with the odds we are getting. And the line villain takes is so so weird.
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
id have to be 150bb+ deep to even consider folding this, especially with a third player in the hand giving you even better odds.
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
by some rough calculations you need 25% equity on average to be good. surely you have that here.
both you and MP know UTG is an idiot and will stack off light, so you both don't need as good a hand as you would do all 3 of you were decent. MP definitely has a big hand which could be a flush or a set. UTG probably has a good hand too, but his range is alot wider. AK with the A or K of diamonds is a big part of his range. with great odds and a big hand (with maybe a couple of straight flush outs) i would be fairly happy to get it in, and think your fold was a little tight |
#27
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
not going to lie...i usually stack off here. might not be correct though.
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#28
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
Wow, unusual turn line from Villain. Good thing you're going to look him up since you have the 3rd nuts (with two outs to the absolute nuts) on a drawy board containing 3 broadway cards, straights, plus lots of pair+FD / pair+SD combos out there and you're getting great pot odds to call.
If you had 5d4d it would be closer, but you definitely have more than enough equity here to call the turn shove, especially since the turn was an ace. |
#29
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I looked at the fold, then I looked at the stack sizes.
My head is spinning...I hope the fold was a misclick. |
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Re: Oh man, I haven\'t felt this lost in ages
really don't like raise/fold on this turn.
raise/call>>>>>call>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>any line that includes folding tbh. |
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