Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Other Topics > Science, Math, and Philosophy
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-24-2007, 04:39 PM
FoldALot. FoldALot. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 412
Default Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

I'm not saying that we desperately need an answer.

What I mean is the apparent difficulty or rather impossibility for cosmologists to
a) get infinitely close to the Big Bang
b) look beyond the observable universe.

Do you think these are unshiftable boundaries of what man can find out about the origin of all?
And if yes, what are the consequences?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-24-2007, 04:48 PM
kurto kurto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: in your heart
Posts: 6,777
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not saying that we desperately need an answer.

What I mean is the apparent difficulty or rather impossibility for cosmologists to
a) get infinitely close to the Big Bang
b) look beyond the observable universe.

Do you think these are unshiftable boundaries of what man can find out about the origin of all?
And if yes, what are the consequences?

[/ QUOTE ]

No. I think Science can prove that God is not necessary. But many of the definitions (and let's straight... no one is even sure how to define God. Many definite it differently) are outside of science by definition.

Can science ever prove that undetectable unicorns don't exist?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-24-2007, 05:00 PM
Henry17 Henry17 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

Tipler tried to prove that G-d existed using physics. It was an interesting read but I have a feeling most religious individuals would not accept the Omega Point as G-d.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-24-2007, 05:05 PM
jogsxyz jogsxyz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,167
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]

No. I think Science can prove that God is not necessary. But many of the definitions (and let's straight... no one is even sure how to define God. Many definite it differently) are outside of science by definition.


[/ QUOTE ]

But we know He looks like us. God created man in His
own image.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-24-2007, 05:59 PM
kurto kurto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: in your heart
Posts: 6,777
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

No. I think Science can prove that God is not necessary. But many of the definitions (and let's straight... no one is even sure how to define God. Many definite it differently) are outside of science by definition.


[/ QUOTE ]

But we know He looks like us. God created man in His
own image.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your cartoon avatar is created in our image too!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-25-2007, 04:43 AM
Alex-db Alex-db is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: London
Posts: 447
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not saying that we desperately need an answer.

What I mean is the apparent difficulty or rather impossibility for cosmologists to
a) get infinitely close to the Big Bang
b) look beyond the observable universe.

Do you think these are unshiftable boundaries of what man can find out about the origin of all?
And if yes, what are the consequences?

[/ QUOTE ]

We should be really quite convinced it has already found it; in the study of human psychology and the history of mythology.

The questions then become:

1) Will humans as a group ever be intelligent enough, and sufficiently well informed, to concur?

2)Will we ever discover the actual process of creation of the known universe?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-25-2007, 04:45 AM
Alex-db Alex-db is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: London
Posts: 447
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

And I think the answer is that the chance we will approaches 100%, given no time limit.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-25-2007, 05:39 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10,570
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not saying that we desperately need an answer.

What I mean is the apparent difficulty or rather impossibility for cosmologists to
a) get infinitely close to the Big Bang
b) look beyond the observable universe.

Do you think these are unshiftable boundaries of what man can find out about the origin of all?
And if yes, what are the consequences?

[/ QUOTE ]


So you're talking about the metaphorical god then right?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-25-2007, 12:53 PM
Inso0 Inso0 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 279
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

No. I think Science can prove that God is not necessary. But many of the definitions (and let's straight... no one is even sure how to define God. Many definite it differently) are outside of science by definition.


[/ QUOTE ]

But we know He looks like us. God created man in His
own image.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your cartoon avatar is created in our image too!

[/ QUOTE ]


This is an amazing point that must not be simply overlooked.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-25-2007, 02:57 PM
kurto kurto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: in your heart
Posts: 6,777
Default Re: Will science ever find the ultimate answer to God?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

No. I think Science can prove that God is not necessary. But many of the definitions (and let's straight... no one is even sure how to define God. Many definite it differently) are outside of science by definition.


[/ QUOTE ]

But we know He looks like us. God created man in His
own image.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your cartoon avatar is created in our image too!

[/ QUOTE ]


This is an amazing point that must not be simply overlooked.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm willing to consider that most conceptions of God are rathar cartoonish.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.