Couple of strange hands from $5k 5diamond

[adanthar]

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having gotten there *this* way, 86/64 are a not-insignificant part of his range because he's a live clown

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I don't think there's a live player in the universe making a pot-sized bet on the flop into 2 people with either of these gutshot draws.

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I'm rethinking this/you might be right, but I would never get there this way tbh so it's hard to judge.

[TheNewf]

1st hand looks good, either that or lead the turn. 2nd hand you need to shove the flop even if you have no fold equity so he can't get away when you make your hand and since you can occasionally be ahead (or have so many outs you're a favourite anyways).

[celticslegend]

i dont think either of these hands are too tricky, hand 1 preflop is whatever i wouldn't limp but i suppose its not bad, river is obv.
hand 2 agree with everyone just raise and get it in at some point