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Old 11-05-2007, 12:39 PM
kurto kurto is offline
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

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I really don't like limping utg with suited connectors. Please make it $1 or fold. As played I bet 2/3 pot on the flop.

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you dont like limping, but ur willing to min raise it. this is a terrible idea. who folds to a min raise but will calla limp

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Seriously... any advice that begins with a suggestion to minraise preflop is probably wrong.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:45 PM
hennnerz hennnerz is offline
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

I think he might have thought it was NL25 where 1$ is standard raise?

I would just raise pre or muck it for sure. Personally looking at who is in the big blind, I would raise.

In a limped pot I would just bet the flop maybe really small or something but I just want to build the pot even in the slightest here.

As played I make it like 48 to go on this river.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

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Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $145.39
MP: $54.28
CO: $50
BTN: $32.49
SB: $171.95
BB: $5.75

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.50,

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God i miss party.

In all seriousness tho, it doesn't matter what you do on river because by not betting flop or turn, you have made the pot so small. Just push and pray he calls with J thinking its a chop.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

My bad misread the stakes. I meant make it 4bb.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

Look how much easier this would have played if you actually tried to, you know, build a pot with the immortal nuts:

Hero (UTG): $145.39
MP: $54.28
CO: $50
BTN: $32.49
SB: $171.95
BB: $5.75

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls

Turn: ($3.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls (maybe even checkraises)

River: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB decides to stop slowplaying, overbets $11.00, BB folds, Hero pushes, and now since there is actually something in the pot worth fighting over SB goes into the tank, curses that he is splitting at best, hopes you don't have JT but has to call anyways, hopes even more that you are bluffing, calls and shows QJ.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

White, you forgot to raise preflop. It'd be more like:

Raise to 2, call, call.
Check, check, bet 5.5, call, fold.
Check, bet 12, call.
Bet 30, shove.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

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White, you forgot to raise preflop. It'd be more like:

Raise to 2, call, call.
Check, check, bet 5.5, call, fold.
Check, bet 12, call.
Bet 30, shove.

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I agree, raising preflop would make the hand even easier.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:35 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

every street except river is played pretty bad.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

Grunch.

If you are going to play 89s UTG, please raise it up. If the SB still comes along for the ride you are playing hand with great implied odds against a big stack.

As played, you MUST bet this flop. Axd is coming along for the ride, made flushes, two pair combos, sets. AdJ, KdJ, QdJ, and the list probably goes on.

The only way this pot gets bigger is by you putting money in it. And you can't ask for a better flop to bet.

The turn could be a terrible card that potentially loses action for you (flush drawers are going to be more timid about putting a lot of dough if they hit their flush on the river fearing a boat), but you should still be betting it as played. There are still a lot of hands out that might want to play with you.

With the river, I just play optimistic here. You will not get called very often, but I just stick my stack in. Any J is usually calling and of course 77.

Main problem here though is not what to do on this river... the main problem is you got 0 dough into the pot and if you do shove, it could look like 77. By betting the flop, it won't look like 77, making it easier for the villian to call a river shove with Jx.

Bet flop, bet turn, shove river. If he made it to the river with you with a Jack, it's an easier call.

Let's for fun assume he has AdJc and likes to call with such holdings from the blinds to a raise.

You raise UTG with 89s to $2.00 he calls. ~$4.00 pot.

He checks. You bet $3.50, he calls. ~$11 pot.

He checks. You bet ~$10, he raises to $35, you call. $~81 pot.

He leads for $75, you re-raise all-in.

Much, much easier for him to call and even if he folded, you actually made some dough.

BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: 300 BB deep - straight flush

not betting this flop/turn is a huuuuuuuge mistake.
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