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Old 11-12-2007, 12:32 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

prob fold. someone do the math gogogogogog
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

easy push
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

i think this is a fold. i disagree with the whole SB is dead money thing, unless he's one of those guys who calls 3bets/squeezes as if they're a standard open raise:

e.g. button raises, the same small blind calls and u squeeze from the BB - btn folds and sb calls regardless and ends up with like K9.

against that type of player i think a push is fine, without reads i lean towards a fold.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

Irish Pete Sb is 45/11... he v likely is the type of player youve outlined
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

Fold or push.

Calling or 4-betting less than AI are both bad. Clearly SB isn't ever folding a pair if it's less than AI. Pushing is also awesome because UTG is in a terrible spot even if he's got something as good as QQ.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

fold there is just too high a chance you are dominated here.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

ok good, at least everyone isn't advocating fold which i kinda felt may be the case...i was scared it was too aggressive to shove here, but i did.. all folded except SB who had AK also.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us

4bet/call shove ship it. 40% equity vs JJ-AA, AK plus lots of dead money (1/3 of a BI) and you will often fold out JJ-QQ, AK.
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